Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Japan has said it will trade with us after Brexit, in return for no visas.
Of course, we trade with Japan now as part of the EU trade agreement.
Controlled immigration? It will never happen.
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[Politics] Brexit
- Thread starter KingstonSeagull
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Japan has said it will trade with us after Brexit, in return for no visas.
Of course, we trade with Japan now as part of the EU trade agreement.
Controlled immigration? It will never happen.
Mr Banana
Tedious chump
No input at all? "Exclusive competence"?
Barnet Seagull
Luxury Player
That is a forecast and one of many which may or may not be accurate. You asked for evidence. I'm asking the same.
The government's own forecast is based on brexit shock and the compound effects thereof. In short no one knows or can know the long-term. Over a longer period socio-economic factors come more into play which I believe could make it favourable.
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I love how those oh so superior types like you and TLO have to resort to pathetic insults because someone has a different ideaology to yours. Quite telling. Are you in Momentum?
You’re talking absolute bollocks.
Well it sounds to me like Labour and SNP won't talk until 'no deal' is off the table.
No big surprise there, then
I'll compromise with that just as long as remain is also taken off the table as well ...... after all we've already answered that question.
- Jul 10, 2003
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Hope you've let Theresa know that you won't talk to her till then, she'll be so disappointed
It's very doubtful that remain is an option unless we have another referendum but Corbyn has no appetite for that, by taking no deal off the table and extending article 50 all but ends Brexit.
Mr Banana
Tedious chump
Have you got any evidence of those that would help to make an informed decision more effectively than the current long-term evidence-based reports?
Mellor 3 Ward 4
Well-known member
The whole shambles has been handled appallingly, however when you're negotiating, all options have to be available, however unpalatable.
Taking one of the options off the table, before you start weakens your hand considerably.
Taking one of the options off the table, before you start weakens your hand considerably.
As I said yesterday, self-serving selfish scum is the best I can come up with to describe the action of the Tory party to protect themselves and themselves only. If you or I had been so inept, and failed so spectacularly in our jobs, we’d be at the job centre now. In fact the vast majority of people would. We would not vote ourselves back in and then carry on as though nothing happened whilst stubbornly claimed to be able to find the solution when absolutely nothing she has said or done in the past 2 years has shown she can. She has just suffered the worst defeat ever in British history. For **** sake do the decent and honerable thing and walk Theresa May....and please do it in something other than those nauseous leather trousers...you’re too old for them.
surrey jim
Not in Surrey
It's very doubtful that remain is an option unless we have another referendum but Corbyn has no appetite for that, by taking no deal off the table and extending article 50 all but ends Brexit.
For the love of god please can we do all to ensure A50 isn't extended. I don't think I could cope with another year of Brexit in the news 24/7, the politicians spending another year ballsing it up and us all being in the same situation.
In seriousness what the country [and companies in the UK] need is stability, by extending A50 and thus keeping uncertainty it wont help
Having it on the table has done **** all so far. Why continue? It’s proven the “difficult woman” approach with added insults and swaggering arrogance from her colleagues does not work. Time to change tack, and personal. Let someone else have a go.
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
ECOWAS (Economic Community of West African States) Mauritania had a 'Maurexit' from it at the turn of the century and has since limped back into a 'partnership agreement' with it.
btnbelle
New member
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I am in favour of controlled immigration for the EU too.
Mo Gosfield
Well-known member
- Aug 11, 2010
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Yes.
What is the point paying a lot of money to be a member of a club, whose trading rules amplify our weaknesses ( goods/manufacturing ) and nullify our strengths ( services ). A club that has no desire to reform and whose very existence will be under severe pressure in the future.
( p.s Germany about to go officially into recession. France in social turmoil. Italian banks collapsing. Southern Mediterranean economies ruined......and I thought we were the one with problems! )
What is the point paying a lot of money to be a member of a club, whose trading rules amplify our weaknesses ( goods/manufacturing ) and nullify our strengths ( services ). A club that has no desire to reform and whose very existence will be under severe pressure in the future.
( p.s Germany about to go officially into recession. France in social turmoil. Italian banks collapsing. Southern Mediterranean economies ruined......and I thought we were the one with problems! )
Can someone explain why Corbyn won’t talk to the PM please, I know he thinks she is a stupid woman but surely he could at least engage?
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
I realise that, but what I'm trying to paint for you so that it doesn't come as too much of a shock, is that immigration will not change after we Leave. It simply won't because if incoming numbers were the issue and over 50% coming in are from outside the EU, we would have already curbed immigration. We haven't and that should tell you that economically it is not viable to do so.
I appreciate you are in favour of controlled immigration, but leaving the EU will not change the numbers. In fact, I would go as far as to say that if our new trading utopia materialises, and we do have an upturn in economic output, we will increase immigration and make it as close to free movement from the EU as we can make it.