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Thrifty non-licker
I think it is clear enough. You'll cope.
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[Politics] Brexit
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I think it is clear enough. You'll cope.
Icy Gull
Back on the rollercoaster
- Jul 5, 2003
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Anyone on here, who actually knows what they re talking about (I don’t claim to btw) know how badly affected Europe will be if we threatened a no deal Brexit? I know it wouldn’t be great for us but how would it be for Europe? Basically is it something we could play poker on, following yesterday’s vote, with Europe for them to be more compliant than they have been so far?
I voted stay but am very anti another vote for, what to me, are very obvious reasons.
I voted stay but am very anti another vote for, what to me, are very obvious reasons.
Think I have rumbled [MENTION=5101]BigGully[/MENTION]s 2nd account.
clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
- 25,302
She isn't in it.Sturgeon should **** off out of our Parliament.
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I voted yes, but I hope to be proven wrong.
A lot of talk about people changing their minds, but also worth remembering that:
a) there would likely be an even higher turnout - many took a "remain" win for granted before; and
b) three years have passed, so three years of new voters will be involved.
A lot of talk about people changing their minds, but also worth remembering that:
a) there would likely be an even higher turnout - many took a "remain" win for granted before; and
b) three years have passed, so three years of new voters will be involved.
I have to pull you up on your declarative statements here. Your statement on 'biggest lies' lacks any foundation in facts:
Partly because you cannot know whether it is lies or not till we leave. Remainers have predicted what will happen. This may be correct or not. You cannot say their predictions are lies.
You are also making a false statement because the leave promises are proven lies:
The eyewatering amounts of money we will get for the NHS
The end to 'out of EU' migration (which we already control 100%)
Turkey joining the EU in the next few years, soon to be followed by Iraq and Iran (I have the leafelets for 'official leave' still and posted png pix on NSC at the time).
And the fact that Brexit has not been possible to enact, despite the best efforts of Mrs May, and Boris and Davies who flounced rather then seal a deal.
I am a bif fan of logic and reason.....so how can a second referendum be not democratic because people would not turn out to vote? There is an argument that a second vote may not be democratic but this isn't the reason. It is a possible consequence. As a matter of interest, you do realise that 'leave' was carried by fewer han 50% of the electorate don't you? This is because (and you may have to brace yourself here) not everyone turned out to vote. With respect to the generation of a position based on whimsy versus reason and logic, I refer you to chocolate tea pots and rubber bicycles.
I am thinking about starting a poll on whether we should not require an examination before people are allowed to vote. If the nation were to have a referendum on this, and the nation votes 'yes', we could then democratically exclude a number of people from the electoral register. Would you accept the outcome of such a referendum, I wonder?
Also, all the time people are still asking for things we can’t have it won’t change.
So maybe we should get a vote on EU membership alongside each general election ? Just to ensure being in or out always matches the current mood.
KZNSeagull
Well-known member
We will leave.
TM will talk to the other parties, take all of the brilliant ideas back to the EU who will laugh and say no. Parliament and the media will continue into overdrive panic mode. No deal preperations will continue. At the beginning of March, Germany will force the rest of the EU to offer an acceptable deal with which we leave.
As far as I can see, last night bounced the ball back into the EU's court. Parliament can come up with whatever ideas it likes but if the EU do not play ball, it will be a waste of time.
TM will talk to the other parties, take all of the brilliant ideas back to the EU who will laugh and say no. Parliament and the media will continue into overdrive panic mode. No deal preperations will continue. At the beginning of March, Germany will force the rest of the EU to offer an acceptable deal with which we leave.
As far as I can see, last night bounced the ball back into the EU's court. Parliament can come up with whatever ideas it likes but if the EU do not play ball, it will be a waste of time.
And 3 years of deaths culling the herd of elderly leave voters.
Kalimantan Gull
Well-known member
Yep, I think you've hit the nail on the head why we should never have had the first referendum and why it wouldn't exactly be a bad thing to ignore it. Something as momentous and far reaching as this as this should not be decided on the 'current mood' of the electorate
30 mins ago she was hanging around the foyer like a bad smell, giving interviews with Sky and BBC1, I thought it was Jimmy Krankie at first?
She's just down here to stir the shite, I think she should get her own house in order first. #Salmond
Biggest defeat in history over Brexit.
Labour talks about the police.
Good stuff
Labour talks about the police.
Good stuff
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
I think your 'wouldn't happen in Germany' killer line would fit in category 2).
Baker lite
Banned
She typifies people who don't want to join the club but have a big mouth..
Errrr ..... you're not actually factually correct. The terms of a referendum are defined in the legislation for THAT referendum - so they can either be binding or advisory. The legislation for the 2016 one said advisory ...... it could have said binding but didn't.