nicko31
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Too well diversified to worry about that
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[Politics] Brexit
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Too well diversified to worry about that
nicko31
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Irish Border problem isn't going away
https://news.sky.com/story/irish-bo...nts-post-brexit-not-possible-say-mps-11291721
Maybe Boris has a solution. He's big on blue sky thinking
https://news.sky.com/story/irish-bo...nts-post-brexit-not-possible-say-mps-11291721
Maybe Boris has a solution. He's big on blue sky thinking
Do you really and truly expect us to believe you read the FT? And if you do read it, I bet you follow the words with your finger and read them out to yourself.
Garry Nelson's teacher
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Of course the fundamental problem we all face is that we do not know the future.
As a Remainer I do tend to selectively scan for 'evidence' that validates my decision to stay within the EU. I see that there's plenty of it around and that it also tends to accord with the underlying economic model i.e. we will trade less (net), lose access to the biggest single market in the world, incur new transaction costs, be less attractive to 3rd party Foreign Direct Investment, lose access to our services market and possibly our international standing as a global hub, lose access to labour in crucial areas of the economy. Consequently economic growth will slow and holes will appear in the public finances. And then there's the practical stuff like additional border controls and the like such as the huge leaving costs which were never the subject of public discourse during the referendum campaign. I look at the inevitable short-term chaos that will follow which few doubt. I also look at the way our negotiations are being handled. And then there's Northern Ireland.
Equally I'm sure that the Leavers focus on their 'own' evidence although this appears to me to lean rather heavily on the 'you were wrong before so you'll be wrong again' hypothesis. Or the 'we seem to be doing OK so far' line (er, we're not really doing that well folks) and the ultimate trump card: 'feck the lot of them'. And of course 'it' hasn't happened yet.
We'll keep on firing at each other from our respective trenches for a while yet...........................but a SINGLE new post-Brexit trade deal might just strengthen the Leavers' case considerably? Or just any 'positives' (as opposed to rubbishing the negatives) at all, really (please).
You seem to be the one losing it Tubby.I did advise you to cut back on your craft beer.You have forgotten to use spell-check,and forgotten to give yourself a like!
How we all laughed at your german Red Arrows-what a clown you are!
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Was this how you imagined it?
How’s your retirement going old man?
beorhthelm
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not really. HQ location is about governance, ownership, taxation and access to capital, almost entirely separate from where you might base operations such as sales or manufacturing. where goods are made affects things like import tariffs, where the company reports its accounts does not.
Lincoln Imp
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Off he goes. Please read the middle para of my post and tell me what you disagree with. And as a bonus tell me where I "claim to know more than the chief executive of Unilever".
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It's only an issue for the EU. They should keep their noses out of this, and stop trying to make things difficult. The government has stated it's position and that should be the end of it.
ManOfSussex
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Which Government, ours or The Irish who are remaining as EU members?
The tone of messages has changed from we hold all the aces etc to playing the victim card.
It’s not going to be the end of it because we need to have controls, after all we are taking back control about who and what goes in and out of the UK.
It’s this staggering level of ignorance and arrogance which is also causing David Davis problems.
daveinprague
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Common sense is 'making things difficult' ?
You've conveniently omitted to mention what it is about the Dutch regulations that attracted Unilever to this action - and it's nothing to do with Brexit. In the UK a takeover only has to take account of the affect on shareholders - in the Netherlands they have to take into account the affect on not only shareholders but employees, suppliers, the public good and the environment. This change would have happened regardless of Brexit.
There was also an interesting article on Radio 4 yesterday about British based companies shifting their operations to the EU. Apparently most of the big players ( mainly finance ) have moved the absolute minimum just to allow them them to continue trading inside the EU without restriction - and mostly to sites they already have. The remainer predictions of thousands of jobs moving hasn't happened and is unlikely to happen.
Lincoln Imp
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There is a tendency to assume conflict where none exists. If you reread my post you'll see that I made no attempt to link the Dutch regulations that appeal to Unilever with Brexit. Like Holland, the UK is a sovereign nation and it has a different approach. My Brexit-related point was that this divergence seem likely to increase in the months and years after next March. Again, I made no attempt to link that possibility to Unilever - it might have added weight to the decision to move but of course I don't know.
On your other point I'd simply say that moving staff at short notice is an expensive business and I'd expect any company to keep it to a minimum.
Baldseagull
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How’s your retirement going old man?
He will be inthe pub all day with teenage footballers and retired Nazis.
Thunder Bolt
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No, it wasn't. I'm a fervent Remainer, but Unilever made this decision because of the stricter takeover rules in the Netherlands. They already have an office in Rotterdam, so it made sense to move HQ to the Rotterdam office, for greater protection. It really isn't a decision based on Brexit.
My daughter is a tax accountant with Unilever so I know what I am talking about. Fortunately, there won't be many job losses, maybe seven or so.
Baldseagull
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Whatever their reasoning, and it would be crazy to think that Brexit was in no way a factor, even if just because of the current uncertainty, it will result in a reduced tax take by UK treasury.
Baldseagull
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These are the small contingency plans, at the moment there is a possibility they could carry on their trade from London without impediment, the Government is certainly doing all it can to convince the city that by remaining here now, they help Britains case for getting a good deal with the EU, if that deal for financial services fails to materialise, it will be thousands of jobs.
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
How’s your retirement going old man?
Absolutely marvelous old chap,and thank you for caring.Already had two trips into the 'Evil Empire' this year,and just finished my latest project,re-wiring my home network with cat.6 to take advantage of our ever increasing broadband speeds,best in Europe!
beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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i'm certain its factor in every business decision right now, just in this case low down the weighting, perhaps after quality of local amenities.