View Poll Results: Is Theresa May is out of her depth?

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    168 30.11%
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    Local interest.

    Maria Caulfield and Ben Bradley have resigned their vice-chair roles.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44785797

    Both have warned they will lose their seats unless the Tories deliver Brexit.

    Ms Caulfield told Mrs May the plan would be "bad for our country and bad for the party".


    Err, what Maria? Lose your seat when Lewes voted Remain?
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    NSC at its very best ~ a post based on assumption on a matter the poster hasn't got a clue about!!
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      Quote Originally Posted by beorhthelm View Post
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      ministers direct policy.
      Ministers do give direction regarding policy based on what's legal and achievable as advised by public servants Once the policy direction has been made public the same public servants plan, negotiate and write the policy into law ministers then are then used to sell the package to other MPs and the general public
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      Quote Originally Posted by Triggaaar View Post
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      But while Labour are the shadow government it is their duty to put forward their own policies on how they would deal with things, so that we know what the alternative to our government is.
      But Trig, the current ruling party introduced this fixed FIVE year term, Labour do not have to present their manifesto for another FOUR years!!! they are Her Majesties opposition and they are opposing, they are NOT required to put forward their own agender until either an election is called or the five year term has expired.
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      Quote Originally Posted by hans kraay fan club View Post
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      It isn't about just 'being disgruntled'. It is about people arguing for, and campaigning for, what they believe in, as is their right in a free democracy. This is not aimed at you personally, but at a significant tranche of ranters, who were all shouty about 'the will of the people' regards one vote that took place, but now do not feel that 'the people' have any further right to comment, unless they are singing from their chosen script.

      In my view, that attempts to shout down debate at this stage ('just get on with it', etc) are based on fear, of not getting quite what they hoped for, but they just make themselves look like morons.
      A couple of minor points, we had a referendum where a majority voted leave with the promise this would be enacted and a general election where over 80% voted for parties promising to enact the referendum result. You and others want a third go to hopefully get a result you want .. which is very EU keep asking the question etc.

      If a second referendum voted down the governments negotiated final deal how do you think we should proceed considering a significant percentage of that vote didn't want to leave in the first place and a significant percentage would think the government had sold out the first result and want a hard brexit?

      The thing I like about Blair, Campbell et al is they are completely honest in their contempt for democratic decisions when they don't go their way.
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      Quote Originally Posted by WATFORD zero View Post
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      I'll ask again.

      What preparations should we have made for no deal?

      Start building the NI border and border posts?

      Start building the lorry parks at the Ports?

      Start requirements analysis and design of the IT systems to handle WTO rules and tariffs?
      Reports say that preparations have been made and are still being made.

      WTO rules allow borders not to be hard if there are ‘political reasons’. Also, there is a separate clause which allows no border for 10 years whilst negotiations are on going. (Only quoting what I’ve read elsewhere).

      Most goods won’t need inspecting and can be waived through. This is how the vast majority of trade is done. For example, manufactured parts - what inspection needs to be done? We already have to cater for different tax regimes between NI and Ireland as it is.

      You’re believing too much Project Fear Phase 2.
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      Quote Originally Posted by golddene View Post
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      But Trig, the current ruling party introduced this fixed FIVE year term, Labour do not have to present their manifesto for another FOUR years!!! they are Her Majesties opposition and they are opposing, they are NOT required to put forward their own agender until either an election is called or the five year term has expired.
      Not only are they not required to, it would be positively foolish to do so. Why show your hand unnecessarily?
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      What agreement has been reached on aviation then?
      If you honestly believe that they can’t just agree something like that easily then there’s no point having a discussion.

      Just because we leave the EU doesn’t invalidate our processes. All companies will be adhering to ISO/ AS9001 standards etc.

      This is purely more remain/EU BS.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Ernest View Post
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      Yep, sooner we get rid of the remainers in government the better.

      Brexit means Brexit.

      No deal means no money.
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      Quote Originally Posted by larus View Post
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      If you honestly believe that they can’t just agree something like that easily then there’s no point having a discussion.

      Just because we leave the EU doesn’t invalidate our processes. All companies will be adhering to ISO/ AS9001 standards etc.

      This is purely more remain/EU BS.
      For some reason the aviation industry in this country and in the EU don't think it's going to be as simple as just that once we're out The Open Skies Agreement, but I'm sure Chris Grayling will negotiate all the reciprocal and bilateral agreements in time to replace it all and no landing slots/rights will be affected etc. I'm surprised it hasn't been sorted already with someone of his calibre on the Transport brief.
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