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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?

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Simster

Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,184
Surrey
So now that this myth of the RoI being a tin-pot economy has been debunked, and that it is quite clear they could afford to keep borders in place if they so wished, I'm struggling to see @Two Professor's rationale.

What is it to be? The only way to keep the Irish border open seems to be for the UK to stay inside the customs union, rather than this ignorant "they'll do as we say or they'll be in the poor house" attitude.
 




nicko31

nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,571
Gods country fortnightly
Herr Tubthumper said:
I’d also suggest that being an English speaking nation within the EU it will become quite attractive for investment post Brexit.
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A very enviable position to be in, just pity the weather is even worse than the most of the UK
 


Pretty pink fairy

Pretty pink fairy

Banned
Jan 30, 2008
31,981
Simster said:
So now that this myth of the RoI being a tin-pot economy has been debunked, and that it is quite clear they could afford to keep borders in place if they so wished, I'm struggling to see @Two Professor's rationale.

What is it to be? The only way to keep the Irish border open seems to be for the UK to stay inside the customs union, rather than this ignorant "they'll do as we say or they'll be in the poor house" attitude.
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seems? , might ?,could ?, there wont be a customs union ,someone's going to be upset who's it going to be ?
regards
DR
 










beorhthelm

beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,300
Simster said:
What is it to be? The only way to keep the Irish border open seems to be for the UK to stay inside the customs union, rather than this ignorant "they'll do as we say or they'll be in the poor house" attitude.
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is that reflective of the EU on UK or UK on Ireland... or maybe applies to both? :wink:

Ireland is going to do very well out of Brexit, the favoured location for US companies moving necessary assets into the EU. office in London, few servers in Dublin, Galway, Cork, perfect arrangement for banks and data companies, its already happening.
 


G

Garry Nelson's teacher

Well-known member
May 11, 2015
5,257
Bloody Worthing!
nicko31 said:
A very enviable position to be in, just pity the weather is even worse than the most of the UK
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I remember going to Dublin at the height of the 'Celtic Tiger' hype. Everywhere you looked there seemed to be construction sites - alongside, it must be said, some council estates that were beyond grim. The Irish were totally open that they were going to get the best of every deal going: from the EU, from the US - from anyone. The were relentless in 'gaming' their membership of the EU - they got their guys in pivotal positions and punched above well their weight. Whereas the impression they had of the UK was that we were sitting on the sidelines moaning like hell and didn't want to play.
 




A1X

A1X

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Sep 1, 2017
17,750
Deepest, darkest Sussex
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This sounds like fun. Still the people of Kent voted Leave so they knew they were voting for a big lorry park where their motorway was, as we keep being told Leavers knew exactly what they were voting for.

Dread to think how they're going to cater for this at Newhaven, never mind Portsmouth / Southampton / Felixstowe / Holyhead / Tilbury...
 


JC Footy Genius

JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
Gwylan said:
Far left? :lolol::lolol:

The Socialist Party or the SWP could be described as far left but the Labour Party?

I pointed this out last year but just to reiterate, virtually every part of the Labour manifesto (nationalised rail, higher corporation tax, free uni education etc ) is something that the centre-right CDU in Germany supports.

If the Labour Party were far left, it would wholeheartedly back Brexit
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If the Labour party were far left the Shadow Chancellor would be saying he wants to overthrow capitalism ...

https://twitter.com/darrengrimes_/status/998150862303383552/video/1

:facepalm:
 


Nibble

Nibble

New member
Jan 3, 2007
19,238
beorhthelm said:
is that reflective of the EU on UK or UK on Ireland... or maybe applies to both? :wink:

Ireland is going to do very well out of Brexit, the favoured location for US companies moving necessary assets into the EU. office in London, few servers in Dublin, Galway, Cork, perfect arrangement for banks and data companies, its already happening.
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You must be on glue.
 




Nibble

Nibble

New member
Jan 3, 2007
19,238
Simster said:
No amount of posturing after the event is going to make you look anything other than one of the saddest acts on the board. Personally i put you in the hove born and bred/PPF category of sad. It's all there, laid bare. You are genuinely a proper sad case.

I am beginning to realise how the Westdene/Gwylan/Buzzer Brexiteers must feel when they see all manner of simpletons batting for their side on this thread.
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Nobody cares what you think. Just take that in for a second.
 


JC Footy Genius

JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
ManOfSussex said:
I didn't say I did. 'Sussex, Tory, Public School Toff types' was what I said - people who go for red trouser/wax jacket combos. The sort of people who are members of Rye Golf Club or play cricket for Preston Nomads etc.

(You're very lucky that I was so inebriated last night that I can't even recall talking to you on here, let alone what about on this utter cluster**** of a thread, because if I could, I think I would have been forced to pretend to put you on 'ignore' again.)
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I may have been under the influence also ... :drink: a coping mechanism for being addicted to this utter cluster**** of a thread?
 










Nibble

Nibble

New member
Jan 3, 2007
19,238
Simster said:
What are you talking about? As if I needed life lessons from a lying failed actor :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Okay mate. Do you want to keep calling me a liar on here or do you fancy meeting up and calling it to my face?
 






Two Professors

Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
Gwylan said:
UK national debt 88.3% of GDP
Ireland national debt 72.8% of GDP

People have debt, companies have debt, countries have debt .... the questions is whether the economy is robust enough to pay it off. That article you posted actually says that it paid off its IMF debt ahead of schedule.

Now, there's still some way to go and no-one is pretending that the Irish economy is out of the woods but there are countries with higher levels of debt and lower growth in Europe. Ireland's been very poorly and is recovering. It's certainly not a basket case now
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It may not be a basket case,but if they put up trade barriers it soon would be again.Not quite the rosy picture you were trying to paint,is it?They've been very poorly and are recovering doesn't sound like a place to be acting the hard man of the EU from.
 




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