Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
Strange that.I can't find these 10 countries you are on about.You have 4 million youth employment places in Germany?
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[Politics] Brexit
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Strange that.I can't find these 10 countries you are on about.You have 4 million youth employment places in Germany?
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
We are still owed money from Eire and Greece bail-outs,so you are just making yourself look silly.
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
Oh dear,how sad,never mind.I'm sure we will have no problems identifying your next post on here,no matter which name you use Trotsky.
Tubby-McFat-Fuc
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Are these posts some sort of bid for PPfs or Two profs title ?
Because stupid as these posts are, I think you underestimate how low they have set the bar
Here's the last time we had this conversation, and you had no answers and flounced off
http://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?343854-BrExit-the-countdown-to-11PM-GMT-on-Friday-29th-of-March-2019&p=8664829&viewfull=1#post8664829
Well as someone else pointed, you love to push people for answer, but flounce of yourself when challenged.
So, I'll ask you a question, why would no deal be so bad?
How do you think the EU would treat us if we cancelled Brexit and went crawling back to them?
Do you think with no deal, trade will stop on 30th March? After all you have told us we will have no WTO rules in place, or trade deals, so what will happen?
Do you think planes will be grounded, because as you have suggested we will have no aviation laws to go by, as we use EU laws, and we will no longer be part of the EU.
So Mr know all, what will happen?
It’s pointless and a waste of time having a debate with you because
1) You are a by far the thickest person on this thread.
2) You make stuff up. Aside from your fantasy drinking club remember when you stated US beef is better than UK ...then bizarrely tried numerous times to suggest you meant Argentina?
Good day.
Tubby-McFat-Fuc
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Because I believe that will happen. This is not MPs passing some law that poeple dont like. This is MP's taking a public vote, which was made with the promise that is binding and Parliament will do what the people want, and now saying, **** you lot, us 600 plus MP have decided we know best and you have no voice and we are going to act against your wishes.
Can you honestly sit there and think everyone will go, "oh that's okay then" while the EU gloat at us. Dream on.
“Do what we want or else suffer the consequences” - That's how democracy works isn't it. The far right will be cumming in their pants if Brexit is cancelled. It will be the biggest boast they ever get.
What is quite unpleasant, is the people who did not like the outcome of a referendum, doing all the could to stop the democratic decision.
And don't be such a tw at all the time. Because I think this will happen against MPs, doesn't mean I agree with it. It is possible to have a point of view that you do not agree with. Try it sometime
Tubby-McFat-Fuc
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Without a second vote, how the hell do we find out what leavers were voting for, TMs deal or 'no deal' ?
Or is who shouts loudest a more democratic way
BEcause that was not the question at the referendum
We voted would you like to stay in the EU
Would you like to leave the EU
We voted to leave. So by all mean have a vote for TM's deal if you like, that's if she can get it from parliament, but if don't want that, we will still leave. Because that's what we voted for
Here is a trade expert who knows EU and WTO explaining issues. Note this is just about trade and on the companies.
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/to...r-wto-jonathan-isaby-brexit-central-1-5683451
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
Tubby-McFat-Fuc
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Will we?
I think we are in a far better position that nearly every other EU country. Even with all this uncertainy over Brexit
And here is a thread from a couple of months ago today outlining no deal issues.
https://twitter.com/uk_domain_names/status/1051411763680473090
https://twitter.com/uk_domain_names/status/1051411763680473090
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The government seem to be pretty worries about the whole thing wouldn't you say.
https://www.theweek.co.uk/fact-check/95547/fact-check-what-a-no-deal-brexit-really-means
Tubby-McFat-Fuc
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Which is why I say they ****ed up by negotiating with the EU in the first place, and not announcing no deal two years ago, and make the EU come to us. That way we could have had everything set up and ready to go.
No one says it won't be hard to begin with. But its in everyone's interests to get favourable terms in the shortest time possible.
If we are going to do so badly outside the EU, why don't the EU just tell us to leave? And then wait for us to come crawling back in a few years, broken and easy to control?
OR are the EU shit scared of how well we will do without them, and want to stop us leaving so others don't follow suit?
Tubby-McFat-Fuc
Well-known member
This from a governement that only has it's own personal agendas at heart, and from a Governement who's chancellor told us we would have to have an emergency budget if we voted to leave the EU. I'll take what they say with a pinch of salt. Project fear at its finest
Dr. No
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Your negotiating plan was to say no deal two years ago? That is half of our exports and loads more that benefit from EU deals with elsewhere. The economy would have crashed, firms would have left etc. You appear to be very confused about the realities.
Who do you think would have wanted to sign deals with us when we behave like that? Obviously all that ignores the fact it would have been illegal to negotiate deals during article 50 two years.
Your post is possibly the most ignorant on this whole thread. Impressive.
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
Another handy guide to a WTO debacle
https://twitter.com/uk_domain_names/status/1073221524545363973?s=19
- Jul 10, 2003
- 25,866
All goods would start getting stockpiled at ports and airports as we would have no rules, tariffs or quotas on which to work and no method of charging, recording or collecting anything we did try to charge or any staff to administer it.
M25/M20 would grind to a halt.
Supermarkets would start running out within 3-4 days and there would be panic buying (most probably from the people who wanted 'no deal').
People would be laid off from work as the goods they would need won't be available.
We would crawl back and be accepted back into the EU within the week.
You keep on about facing up to the 'reality' of the situation, but have no answers for how any of it would work.
That is the 'reality' of the situation and is why it won't happen.
(And if we 'cancel Brexit' - I assume you mean rescind Article 50, we will be in the exact same position we were before this whole clusterf*** started).
Out of interest, what do you think will happen ?
Tubby-McFat-Fuc
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How do you know that?
Did anyone truly believe we would have got anywhere with the EU two years ago? Was the outcome ever going to be any different to what is it now, where the EU have us by the short and curleys and control us even though we have left?
Our error was negotiating a "whole deal". it should have been done piece by piece.
Agree on citizens rights two years ago. Your's can say. Our can stays. Agreed. Sign it off. Move on to avation. Sign it off. All the time everything was link to a trade deal, the EU always had us on the Irish boarder. They knew that, they've got what they want.
The red lines should have been drawn two ago, and the moment the EU told us they would agree to it, we should have walked away.
As for being illegal to negotitate deal? The PM has already said we are talking to new trade partners and even spelt out what she excepts from some of them.
Tubby-McFat-Fuc
Well-known member
What about flights? We would as it stands not be able to operate flights to any where in the world? What's you opinion on that one?