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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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larus

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The pound has continued its recent strong run against the dollar pushing firmly above $1.43.

It is the seventh session in a row that the pound has made gains against the US currency.

The strong run means that, among the G10 group of rich nations, the UK has the best performing currency this year.


Remember the days when a plunging exchange rate with the dollar = Armageddon/I told you so, now .... ???



I blame the Russians. Fake news. The ‘real’ rate is closer to parity.

I wonder what the outcome of a poll to Remain voters would be with the choices:
1. Do you want Brexit to be successful and the UK economy to grow strongly?
Or
2. Do you want the UK economy to tank so yo can say “I told you so”?

I think there a several on here who are praying for bad news so it makes them feel they voted the right way.
 




WATFORD zero

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Jul 10, 2003
25,846
Had an interesting lunch last week with an old associate who specialises in Government legislation. They said that there is only one problem with the Withdrawal Agreement and Implementation Bill and the timescale set out for it.

And that is 'who is going to tell the electorate it's not possible'

Their words 'the biggest rush job since the dangerous dogs bill, but thousands of times more complex'.

Tick-tock though :lolol:
 


Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
We are still leaving,and if the obstructionists block the Withdrawal Agreement,we will be 39 billion better off.Don't think Barmier will be able to find that much down the back of the sofa,so might have a word in some of the Euroloons ears.Tick-tock indeed.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
59,566
The Fatherland
“Relations are a lot more normalised between the UK and the rest of the us after the Salisbury attacks and the show of solidarity with Britain at the EU leaders' summit two weeks ago," one European diplomat told me.
"Besides which," he added with a glint in his eye, "we know the Brexit drill by now.
"The UK makes a fuss, tells us things are unacceptable - like the financial settlement (the so-called Brexit bill), and like allowing EU citizens the right to stay permanently in the UK, even if they only move there in the transition period after Brexit - but the British Government gives in, in the end. Even if they dress up the fact to make it more acceptable at home."

:lolol:
 


Jan 30, 2008
31,981
Had an interesting lunch last week with an old associate who specialises in Government legislation. They said that there is only one problem with the Withdrawal Agreement and Implementation Bill and the timescale set out for it.

And that is 'who is going to tell the electorate it's not possible'

Their words 'the biggest rush job since the dangerous dogs bill, but thousands of times more complex'.

Tick-tock though :lolol:
old man time again, you carry on convincing yourself
regards
DR
 




Jan 30, 2008
31,981
“Relations are a lot more normalised between the UK and the rest of the us after the Salisbury attacks and the show of solidarity with Britain at the EU leaders' summit two weeks ago," one European diplomat told me.
"Besides which," he added with a glint in his eye, "we know the Brexit drill by now.
"The UK makes a fuss, tells us things are unacceptable - like the financial settlement (the so-called Brexit bill), and like allowing EU citizens the right to stay permanently in the UK, even if they only move there in the transition period after Brexit - but the British Government gives in, in the end. Even if they dress up the fact to make it more acceptable at home."

:lolol:
you wont be laughing when we leave though :)
regards
DR
 








A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
17,801
Deepest, darkest Sussex
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ario-will-leave-britain-worse-off-study-finds

After looking at all four options available to the prime minister, the study established that in the long-term, the amount of money available for spending on public services would fall. Under the so-called Norway option, there would be £262m less a week, under the Canada model it would be £877m, while under a no deal it would be £1.25bn.

This would mean 22% less funding available for the NHS if there was a bespoke deal, and 9%, 31% and 44% less under each of the other options.

A poll of 2,000 people for Global Future found they overwhelmingly thought all four possible deals – bespoke, remaining in the European Economic Area, a free trade agreement and crashing out onto World Trade Organization terms – were bad.

It also found that 72% of those who voted leave thought that £615m a week would be too high a price to pay for the bespoke deal; while 78% felt it was worse than they had hoped for when casting their vote in the EU referendum.

So much for that £350m a week for the NHS then.
 




Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum




A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
17,801
Deepest, darkest Sussex
Looks like Diane Abbott's been on the calculator again :lolol:Hope we have enough to sign up some of the 10,000 nurses the Zimbabwe dictator has just sacked.Better than EU nurses,and they all speak English already.

Hmm...

The study for the thinktank Global Future by Jonathan Portes, a professor of economics and public policy at King’s College, London
 




Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
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Oct 27, 2003
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The arse end of Hangleton
I know that shouting NO is the current official government line on the Ireland/NI issue, but what do you think is really going to happen ?

I think as with most things it will be a fudge using clever language to satisfy both sides and will effectively be a soft border using some technology.
 




nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
17,591
Gods country fortnightly
I think as with most things it will be a fudge using clever language to satisfy both sides and will effectively be a soft border using some technology.

Back to having our cake and eating it again. What happened the breaking up the UK idea?
 


Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
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Oct 27, 2003
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The arse end of Hangleton
Back to having our cake and eating it again. What happened the breaking up the UK idea?

I said a united Ireland would be ONE resolution. I don't in a month of Sunday's believe our current politicians have the stomach to actually do it.
 




WATFORD zero

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Jul 10, 2003
25,846
I think as with most things it will be a fudge using clever language to satisfy both sides and will effectively be a soft border using some technology.

What, like Britain agrees to stay in line with all EU legislation going forward, but it will be OUR decision to stay in line with it :wink:

So just like we agreed at the very last minute back on 8th December in order to close phase 1 of the negotiations.

PS I think that a United Ireland may need a little more than politicians with stomachs
 




nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
17,591
Gods country fortnightly
I said a united Ireland would be ONE resolution. I don't in a month of Sunday's believe our current politicians have the stomach to actually do it.

Well better start working on the fudge, govt battered 348 to 225 on Customs Union vote.
 




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