- Jul 10, 2003
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Take a bonkers referendum, give a bonkers answer, and you're surprised that we ended up in bonkersville?
Really?
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[Politics] Brexit
- Thread starter KingstonSeagull
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Take a bonkers referendum, give a bonkers answer, and you're surprised that we ended up in bonkersville?
Really?
Hampster Gull
New member
- Dec 22, 2010
- 13,462
Plan B is Plan A. Genius. I never saw that coming.
She seems to think she has a pretty cunning plan, except everyone knows it’s not cunning and it’s not a plan, it’s just an unpolished turd
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46908205
“France and Germany are to sign a new treaty on Tuesday”
“France and Germany are to sign a new treaty on Tuesday”
Corbyn called it spot on. Why waste everyone’s time?
The bit where he was invited to discuss the way forward with May (negotiations wasn't the right term)What negotiations
It's wasting time for him not to even go and talk. The only two die hard labour supporters I've spoken to about it think he got it wrong.
Mmmmm....my impression was that the small minority really do think everything is lovely. Perhaps this is why people insult them. But that is nothing to do with my comment. I was asking whether anyone could (feel free to read what I asked, I'm not going to repeat myself)
Presumably, if you are a Brexitter (didn't think you were, but whatever) you don't count yourself among the as yet unidentified group who (feel free to read what I said previously).
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
The Labour Party have said, consistently since the general election last year, and per their most recent party conference, they want to leave the EU with a customs union and access to the single market. They've not said this is sacrosanct with imaginary red lines, they have said this is the Brexit they would like to see. How is that no better?
And judging by May's statements today, in which we haven't seen a single item of concession on her Plan A, there have been absolutely no negotiations with anyone, and the whole exercise is about turning around her own mps and the dup. Corbyn called it spot on and was right not to give her a bit of PR that she is somehow flexible and listening to opinion.
Baker lite
Banned
Does it involve the Maginot line?
On our way.
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Baldseagull
Well-known member
Vote leave had a long list of things you could imagine spending the imaginary dividend on, I do this sometimes when I buy a lottery ticket, dream about hitting the jackpot, which actually has slightly better odds of coming in than a cake and eat it Brexit deal ever did.
Baker lite
Banned
Can’t take no deal off the table, it is the table lofty..
On our way.
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Baldseagull
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Did Bryan Robson tell you that, or was it the Waffen SS?
- Apr 5, 2014
- 23,572
The UK will not leave without a deal- and anyone sensible, leave or remain, would want it that way.
Parliament will not allow that.
It turns out he has got it spot on (because there is nothing to discuss) but this wasn't why he refused to talk so you are right. He should have shown a bit of willing and not behaved like a tit. The discussions (which will never happen) would never have happened anyway, and if they had (which they wouldn't) they would have fallen apart owing to their abject futility. And instead of this bringing the futility of attempts to get a Brexit into sharp relief all it does is make Corbyn look like an idiot. So, no change there.
The only thing that stops me ranting about the absurdity of Corbyn is my optimism that Brexit won't happen (because it can't). I'll stick with this mantra for the time being, since it is keeping my will to live well-fed.
fanseagull
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- Dec 18, 2018
- 228
Somewhere out there is a tree, tirelessly producing oxygen so Baker lite can breathe. I think s/he owes it an apology.
Baker lite
Banned
Well they’ve 67 days to stop it,the law states we leave on 29th March.
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Baker lite
Banned
I know what the question was, but I don't feel optimistic about the Brexit arrangements. I don't see how anyone can, given how poorly it's being managed.Mmmmm....my impression was that the small minority really do think everything is lovely. Perhaps this is why people insult them. But that is nothing to do with my comment. I was asking whether anyone could (feel free to read what I asked, I'm not going to repeat myself)
I've been thinking for some months that it won't, but the odds have always suggested it will, so I have assumed that I missed something. I imagine the main option for it not to go ahead is to have another referendum, but perhaps the government would rather leave but stay in the customs union (ie, leave not leave) with all that entails, than have another referendum. Perhaps they will just use May's crap plan A plan B to placate the Leavers by saying we tried to do it your way.
So presumably we will leave softly softly at some point.