[Politics] Brexit

The Clamp · Dec 15, 2017

JC Footy Genius said:
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Obviously the 'poor, racist northern, working class, thickies' should have voted for the Tory/Labour/Lib Dem/Big business Remain establishment to bring about real change

And you rally against sweeping generalisations? Priceless.

nicko31 · Dec 15, 2017

All Brexiters are not racist said:
Fair comment

CHAPPERS · Dec 15, 2017

Blackadder said:
Watched this last night. To be fair he was followed by a sensible chap who voted leave but also added that Brexit was always going to be very complex and no one should think that we could quit without negotiations (or words to that affect). A lot of people don't realise this. It's all very well for Farage to moan like a back seat driver but he jumped ship at the first opportunity to take up a lucrative career as a radio commentator (on top of his MEP salary and pending pension). David Davies said the same, a year ago, and the reality of the job ahead is finally dawning on him.

As for reasons for leaving,I think there are many. Racism, Sovereignty, Economic. etc

All Brexiters are not racist, (I know a fair few who voted out who genuinely don't have a racist bone in their body). However, I think it is fair to say all racists voted Brexit.

Trade talks next. What was it Liam Fox said again?

cheshunt seagull · Dec 15, 2017

neilbard said:

His area has suffered decades of neglect initially triggered by the Tories but which Labour did little to reverse. So, he turns on the agencies that actually provide some regional investment and blames foreigners who make up a minuscule proportion of the local population inevitably lining up with the same ******** that ran his area into the ground to begin with. That makes him a brainless fxxxwit by any definition. We can’t excuse him because of his background, my Dad grew up in a mining village and was incredibly well informed and independent minded. Ignorance is a choice.

The Clamp · Dec 15, 2017

cheshunt seagull said:
His area has suffered decades of neglect initially triggered by the Tories but which Labour did little to reverse. So, he turns on the agencies that actually provide some regional investment and blames foreigners who make up a minuscule proportion of the local population inevitably lining up with the same ******** that ran his area into the ground to begin with. That makes him a brainless fxxxwit by any definition. We can’t excuse him because of his background, my Dad grew up in a mining village and was incredibly well informed and independent minded. Ignorance is a choice.

100% this.

JC Footy Genius · Dec 15, 2017

cheshunt seagull said:
His area has suffered decades of neglect initially triggered by the Tories but which Labour did little to reverse. So, he turns on the agencies that actually provide some regional investment and blames foreigners who make up a minuscule proportion of the local population inevitably lining up with the same ******** that ran his area into the ground to begin with. That makes him a brainless fxxxwit by any definition. We can’t excuse him because of his background, my Dad grew up in a mining village and was incredibly well informed and independent minded. Ignorance is a choice.

Not true, if he was lining up with same ******** that ran his area into the ground to begin with and with the ones who did little to reverse it he would have voted Remain.

Ernest · Dec 15, 2017

ManOfSussex said:
Looks like Tory Titantic and JC Smug Tory Genius have re-grouped and are implementing their spinning instructions from Activate.

Trouble is nobody listens to them

The Clamp · Dec 15, 2017

JC Footy Genius said:
Not true, if he was lining up with same ******** that ran his area into the ground to begin with and with the ones who did little to reverse it he would have voted Remain.

So you think the tories are going to fill the void that the withdrawel of EU funds will leave?

Titanic · Dec 15, 2017

Ernest said:
Trouble is nobody listens to them

'Nobody' in this case being the NSC loony left echo chamber! :laugh:

JC Footy Genius · Dec 15, 2017

Titanic said:
'Nobody' in this case being the NSCs loony left echo chamber!

Whine when we're not on here.... grizzle when we are

Baldseagull · Dec 15, 2017

neilbard said:

He is wrong, it's all about sovereignty, not immigration, so I am told.

BigGully · Dec 15, 2017

Blackadder said:
All Brexiters are not racist, (I know a fair few who voted out who genuinely don't have a racist bone in their body). However, I think it is fair to say all racists voted Brexit.

I find that such an ignorant comment, something that has been used frequently on this thread, especially in light of the comments towards this chap on QT, on this thread alone there has been quite a character assignation on him purely for his Brexit views.

He seems to be deemed working class purely on his northern dialect, I know he mention immigration and its effects on the working class but he might be working class he might not.

He is white and assumed to be working class and most Remainers on here have flippantly called him a racists, a fool, thick Yorkshireman, less informed, out of touch, old woolyhead, and now a new one brainless f**ckwit.

He only posed a view on QT and was roundly applauded and then received dogs abuse by you lot, I wonder if you might have lent the same prejudices and stereotypes to an Asian or black audience member as you have just done to this fella.

The Clamp · Dec 15, 2017

Hands up who believes the tories will match EU funding to Barnsley?

Here are the figure grids for EU investment in South Yorkshire and Barnsley respectively. The funding for Barnsley alone for the years 2005-2013 amounted to £40.29m.

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/requ.../html/2/ESF ERDF and EU grant tables.xls.html

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/requ...Infrastructure Investment 2004 2015.xlsx.html

I think they'll notice that going.

JC Footy Genius · Dec 15, 2017

Baldseagull said:
He is wrong, it's all about sovereignty, not immigration, so I am told.

Best ask a remainer ... they all seem to know that we didn't know what we were voting for and were mistaken in voting to try and get what we didn't know what we were voting for (and were probably racist). :jester:

The Clamp · Dec 15, 2017

BigGully said:
I find that such an ignorant comment, something that has been used frequently on this thread, especially in light of the comments towards this chap on QT, on this thread alone there has been quite a character assignation on him purely for his Brexit views.

He seems to be deemed working class purely on his northern dialect, I know he mention immigration and its effects on the working class but he might be working class he might not.

He is white and assumed to be working class and most Remainers on here have flippantly called him a racists, a fool, thick Yorkshireman, less informed, out of touch, old woolyhead, and now a new one brainless f**ckwit.

He only posed a view on QT and was roundly applauded and then received dogs abuse by you lot, I wonder if you might have lent the same prejudices and stereotypes to an Asian or black audience member as you have just done to this fella.

He voted to ditch £40.29m in EU funding for his area. He's a bit thick.

The Clamp · Dec 15, 2017

JC Footy Genius said:
Best ask a remainer ... they all seem to know that we didn't know what we were voting for and were mistaken in voting to try and get what we didn't know what we were voting for (and were probably racist).

In your area? Without now googling, how much EU funding did you receive?

Herr Tubthumper · Dec 15, 2017

Ernest said:
Racist idiot who hasn't a clue what to think or say apart from what the Daily Mail tells him to, doesn't even know that there is only 4% immigrants in Barnsley, typical thick Yorkshireman

He makes a joke about being thick, then demonstrates he is a bit thick by not fully understanding the very simple question about remaining in the EU or leaving.

The Clamp · Dec 15, 2017

How about this on the side of a bus?.......

The EU spends £40.29 MILLION on funding for Barnsley. That money could be spent on Nigel Farage's pension.

Pavilionaire · Dec 15, 2017

Baldseagull said:
He is wrong, it's all about sovereignty, not immigration, so I am told.

The QT chap in the clip should stand for Yorkshireman Of The Year - a classic performance that encapsulates the excesses of being a Tyke: rude, finger-pointing, parochial, slightly racist. Probably a Leeds or Massive fan to boot.

Herr Tubthumper · Dec 15, 2017

The Clamp said:
Hands up who believes the tories will match EU funding to Barnsley?

Here are the figure grids for EU investment in South Yorkshire and Barnsley respectively. The funding for Barnsley alone for the years 2005-2013 amounted to £40.29m.

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/requ.../html/2/ESF ERDF and EU grant tables.xls.html

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/requ...Infrastructure Investment 2004 2015.xlsx.html

I think they'll notice that going.

They’ll match the EU funding but in give aways to their mates.

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