View Poll Results: Is Theresa May is out of her depth?

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  • She doesn't know what she is doing

    416 70.87%
  • She knows exactly what she is doing

    171 29.13%
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    Quote Originally Posted by oneillco View Post
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    Well that was the problem; a lot of people voted on an emotional rather than informed basis. To appeal on an emotional level it's easy to say "we want an independent Britain which has taken back control and is not being ruled from Brussels" and no amount of actual information about the downside of leaving the EU could outweigh that simple emotional message. Problem is that this seemingly simple concept of "taking back control" is an unobtainable fantasy if a country still wants to trade and cooperate with its nearest neighbours (which happens to be the richest and most stable area in the world).

    Wow yes that is just simply it.

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      The BBC are circulating rumours that there is to be an imminent vote of no confidence in the PM.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Blue Valkyrie View Post
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      My point was - he'd win if he did that. But he won't compromise his view.... so he rather shoots himself in the foot, it seems.
      It's a deep rooted conviction.

      For all our views as holidaymakers and supporters of free trade etc on the EU, Corbyn/McDonnell/McClusky are absolutely certain that the EU is a conspiracy of big business, the wealthy and powerful across Europe to make the wealthy wealthier and a drive to the bottom on wages from freedom of movement.

      Most people in the UK simply can't take this on board. They make a lazy and wildly incorrect assumption that only right wing nationalists are against our membership of the EU. Perhaps it because it's unlikely bedfellows wanting our exit.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Frutos View Post
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      The BBC are circulating rumours that there is to be an imminent vote of no confidence in the PM.
      Great stuff I hope she wins it, it’ll be carnage for longer if she does.
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      The BBC are circulating rumours that there is to be an imminent vote of no confidence in the PM.
      No surprise and I defy any politician to have handled this Brexit shit storm well and to most people’s satisfaction. Totally poisoned chalice trying to lead Britain out of Europe
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      1922 Committee meeting at 1730 apparently. Widely reported Sir Graham Brady has the 48 letters required.
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      Quote Originally Posted by abc View Post
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      Given that this mess is entirely Brexit driven, this question can only be answered by knowing where Labour stand in this debate. Personally I haven't got a clue and they are clearly just as split as the Tories but managing to stay largely under the radar because they are not in government. Some sensible and genuine leadership by JC re Brexit is desperately needed but no sign so far. So really no better or worse than May.
      As a labour supporter I have to agree with a lot of this. Corbyn didn’t look vehemently pro Europe during the pre Brexit vote.

      7/10 wasn’t it.....his quote as to how pro remain he was. He might have had an opportunity but it ‘ll just muddle through now whoever is Tory leader. Boris as PM ? Jesus this is one of the lowest points in my living memory in British politics.
      So, many, many thanks and see you soon, because it’s not a goodbye, I know I will come back, I have to.
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      Quote Originally Posted by ManOfSussex View Post
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      1922 Committee meeting at 1730 apparently. Widely reported Sir Graham Brady has the 48 letters required.
      The moral action would then be to offer a General Election if she goes....


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      No surprise and I defy any politician to have handled this Brexit shit storm well and to most people’s satisfaction. Totally poisoned chalice trying to lead Britain out of Europe
      Correct because it’s a stupid decision to leave.
      So, many, many thanks and see you soon, because it’s not a goodbye, I know I will come back, I have to.
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      I do find it baffling that you continue to sneer at May and the Tories. How exactly would Labour deal with Brexit any better? They've been scared to tell anyone what they stand for, so they're actually no better.
      It's a divisive issue without a shadow of a doubt. Labour have dealt with it so far by having a second leadership election, and multiple sackings of the shadow cabinet of anyone not prepared to tow the party line. I'm not even sure this Toryshambles is about brexit, or just another power grab inside the party sensing it is the moment to deal with a leader that took them to a GE and lost a portion of their majority. She has been on borrowed time since then.