Hampster Gull
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Indeed, clearly they are not stupid, they’ve seen what a mess our Brexiteers have made of it and want nothing to do with it.
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[Politics] Brexit
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Indeed, clearly they are not stupid, they’ve seen what a mess our Brexiteers have made of it and want nothing to do with it.
Wish they were the example not us!
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# Desperate
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Baldseagull
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Place a comma after leave, it makes sense. After we leave(the EU), the Eurozone will improve further. As leave and remain in the context of this thread are commonly understood to refer to our membership of the EU, you are being a bit thick if you can't spot the intended meaning.
larus
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Oh dear, what a fail
.Even with a comma, the implication is that the EUROzone will improve when we leave it. And, as we aren't part of the EUROzone, we're in the EU. 2 separate areas, so yeah, my point stands. A Remain thicko who doesn't really understand anything (apart from bed-wetting).
Quite, context is everything.
nicko31
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He knows exactly what I meant, just easier to ridicule and abuse. Its a distraction from the real issues of Brexit, with which few of the leavers on here are coming up with any sensible solutions
His grasp of economics has been fantasy all along in this thread. He just ignores facts when they are posted against his drivel.
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Context is indeed everything. So let's put the comma in. EVEN when you do that he's STILL claiming we're pulling down the average of the EUROZONE. We can't do that when we aren't IN the Eurozone. The Eurozone average ( whatever he means by that ) will be made up by the measurements of Eurozone members.
Bevendean Hillbilly
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Here's one.
if we offer another referendum on the deal BEFORE we negotiate the other member states will offer us an incredibly awful deal, they will practically embargo us, tie up all of our financial service sector in red tape and raise tariffs on our goods to a massive level. They will fail to honour the rights of Uk nationals in Europe and will obfuscate, object, buerocratise to the point where only an idiot would vote for it.
But why?, you ask.
The U.K. Is the third largest net contributor to the EU budget, our military and intelligence capability makes us the most formidable foe for Europes enemies and our tax levies are among the highest in the EU which allows us to prop up the club med states.
The EU want us to stay because they need us. We simply cannot enter a negotiation where it favours the other side to offer a terrible outcome. Surely anyone can see that?
I am, on balance, more pro than con in regards to Europe but I am staggered that all the remainders want to hamstring our bargaining position before we even really sit down to talk.
What I think will really happen is:
We won't offer a second referendum as that would totally surrender any advantage we have.
Once we have hammered out a deal, based on the assumption that we really are leaving, then we will get the fairest possible deal which suits us and them.
THEN the government can call a snap referendum on the terms we have if it decides so to do.
That's a far better outcome.
Oh look yet another car manufacturer investing heavily in the UK ..... a European owned one at that. #DespiteBREXIT
Hampster Gull
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“The investment is thought to be in the tens of millions of pounds.
It was secured after a negotiation with the Unite union and a financial contribution from the government thought to be about £9m.”
#payingtokeepjobs #desperatebrexitgovernment
Tax payers proping up the car industry. Desperate times.
That's been happening in Germany to the tune of billions of Euros so I guess Germany must be desperate as well.
Every multinational goes straight to the government for a sweetheart deal because they know we're desperate.
Two Professors
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I expect they will need a lot more,with all the buy-backs and fines!
Two Professors
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Plenty of state aid to the automotive industry in any manufacturing country.Are they all desperate,or is it just normal practise?
What relevance does that have to the fact that the German automotive industry is also subsidised by the German government ? Or are they desperate too ?
Strange isn't it - the German's subsidise their industries and the French do as well yet the Pro-EU posters on here don't see that as desperate. Herr T is even a Labour supporter - a party that wants to subsidise many industries and yet he sees it as desperate when it does happen here. #ClutchingatStraws #typicalEUsupportermuddledthinking