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[Politics] Brexit
- Thread starter KingstonSeagull
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No government has won a majority in my lifetime with under 40% of the vote. The only times where a government has, in 1974 (twice) and 2010, it was a government without a majority and, of course, in 2010, the combined votes of the Tories and Liberals were well above 40%.
But even if they had, the main point is that governments can be changed relatively quickly, referenda don't come along every five years. I'd be concerned about any major change taking place with just 30% of the electorate behind it
Yes, you're right about the election result, mea culpa. I did look up 2015 but completely forgot that wasn't a coalition
But I didn't pluck the 30% figure out of nowhere, as I explained earlier. It's not what would happen, it's an example of the sort of problem that could happen
portslade seagull
Well-known member
75% now your dreaming. A small minority of leavers I know would still vote remain the rest are totally fed up with the whole thing and the reluctance for people to accept a vote and if another referendum was called would either not vote or vote leave
Or a referendum where 52% voted to leave - that could happen. Ohhh .....
The fact you can't understand :
a. The difference between a GE and a binary referendum
b. That the more options you have a on a voting paper splinters the percentages
Kind of indicates you're going for the Village Idiot 2019 crown to add to your 2018 one.
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
Are we still doing this? Seriously?
If they're so desperate for a deal why have they done absolutely nothing up to this point? Why aren't they in Brussels and Berlin begging for a deal the UK Parliament will accept?
Quite.
I've reached the point now where I'm absolutely done with pretending that Leave supporters are not thick as ****, so as not to offend or patronise.
A significant proportion remind us day, after day, that they really are utter morons without the most basic grasp of the issues at hand.
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
Liam Fox: We can't have any of our own trade deals if we are in a customs union.
People: Have you made any trade deals for after Brexit?
Liam Fox: No.
People: You must have some preliminary trade deals ready in waiting?
Liam Fox: No.
People: Has anyone confirmed they would replicate the EU trade deals for the UK?
Liam Fox: No.
People: Have you got anything at all lined up post Brexit whatever that may be?
Liam Fox: No.
That's reassuring then.
Also in the news, Boris Johnson, with no sense of irony whatsoever, claims there is an 'elite conspiracy' over Brexit.
People: Have you made any trade deals for after Brexit?
Liam Fox: No.
People: You must have some preliminary trade deals ready in waiting?
Liam Fox: No.
People: Has anyone confirmed they would replicate the EU trade deals for the UK?
Liam Fox: No.
People: Have you got anything at all lined up post Brexit whatever that may be?
Liam Fox: No.
That's reassuring then.
Also in the news, Boris Johnson, with no sense of irony whatsoever, claims there is an 'elite conspiracy' over Brexit.
dingodan
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"You have to be clear about what it's all about: Great Britain is the fifth largest export market in Germany. More than 750,000 jobs in Germany depend on exports to the UK." - DIHK (German Chamber of Commerce and Industry) President Eric Schweitzer.
Yesterday: Chaotic Brexit would shake German business, industry group warns
https://www.ft.com/content/9d33140e-1a3a-11e9-b93e-f4351a53f1c3
December: Germany's BREXIT PANIC: Trade unions WARN of drastic consequences of ‘CHAOTIC’ no deal
https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...rman-industry-manufacturing-trade-theresa-may
Yesterday: German industry 'looking into the abyss' as Brexit fears mount
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2019/01/17/german-industry-looking-abyss-brexit-fears-mount/
Two days ago: German business warns of Brexit 'chaos'
https://www.thelocal.de/20190116/german-business-warns-of-brexit-chaos
October: German Industry Warns of ‘Massive Crisis’ From No-Deal Brexit
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...y-warns-of-massive-crisis-from-no-deal-brexit
They are arguing, quite forcefully, and sensibly, for a deal.
For exactly the same reasons, in the event of No Deal they will argue even harder for an FTA and other voluntary arrangements on trade, and as quickly as possible.
& They will be right to.
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Baldseagull
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Your problem here is you are putting a lot of faith in the words the most untrustworthy MP currently sitting, and that is with some fierce competition.
Baldseagull
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Baldseagull
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There must be some version of leave that you would find less desirable than remaining though.
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
Did you have to have a think before posting a Daily Express link? I imagine it's a bit like a court case where you have your expert witnesses, an architect, structural engineer, and then the expert witness for the claimant against shoddy building works is Nick Knowles from DIY SOS.
Baldseagull
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There is one, but the EU can't make us sign it. The best that the EU can do with what is on the table, is say the UK can leave the backstop arrangement unilaterally, but if it did so, everything would revert to WTO arrangements, which is in fact, what the situation is.