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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
I'm a separate person, as should be obvious. I'm not involved in the debate. I don't think either side is coming across particularly well in the debate. I just noticed some incorrect figures being bandied about and wanted to correct them. It's important that debates are based on accurate information, irrespective of your viewpoint, otherwise your viewpoint cannot be taken seriously. Especially if you wilfully ignore correct figures.

According to the Institute for Fiscal Studies, it would cost £8bn to abolish tuition fees and bring about the maintenance grant. This was calculated around the time of the last GE. However, something which I haven't pointed out, is that since then the Conservatives have increased the threshold for paying back the Plan 2 loans to £25,000. This means it would actually now cost less. Also, there is currently a review being carried out of HE funding and tuition fees, which may change things further.

https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/9217

Yeah,alright Plooks :lolol:
 




Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
These people, Nigel? These people are the British Medical Association. You know, qualified doctors, and suchlike.

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This reply from Dr Rachel Clarke is in 10 parts. It's well worth a read.

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seagulls4ever

New member
Oct 2, 2003
4,338
Yeah,alright Plooks :lolol:

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Pogue Mahone

Well-known member
Apr 30, 2011
10,733
I'm a separate person, as should be obvious. I'm not involved in the debate. I don't think either side is coming across particularly well in the debate. I just noticed some incorrect figures being bandied about and wanted to correct them. It's important that debates are based on accurate information, irrespective of your viewpoint, otherwise your viewpoint cannot be taken seriously. Especially if you wilfully ignore correct figures.

According to the Institute for Fiscal Studies, it would cost £8bn to abolish tuition fees and bring about the maintenance grant. This was calculated around the time of the last GE. However, something which I haven't pointed out, is that since then the Conservatives have increased the threshold for paying back the Plan 2 loans to £25,000. This means it would actually now cost less. Also, there is currently a review being carried out of HE funding and tuition fees, which may change things further.

https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/9217

Seriously fella, don't bother with him. He accuses everybody of being a second account, and is unbelievably thick. He's just not worth it.
 


pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
No, your words



There's no option to extend EU membership with WTO no deal

So, you must be talking about TM's softest of soft Brexits - Your own words :shrug:

Nope, your words that you are putting in my mouth.
Everyone knows there is no implementation period if there is NO agreement and a NO deal
But you were not talking about a WTO NO deal.
You were specific about an agreed solution

7 months to go to implement the agreed solution,

Here, have a hat for not reading what you wrote.:dunce:
 




WATFORD zero

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 10, 2003
25,796
Nope, your words that you are putting in my mouth.
Everyone knows there is no implementation period if there is NO agreement and a NO deal
But you were not talking about a WTO NO deal.
You were specific about an agreed solution



Here, have a hat for not reading what you wrote.:dunce:

You're going round in circles

So, to be clear then, what do think we should do, WTO no deal or TM's plan ?

Because if you want do deal, there's 7 months to implement it
If you claim we have until Dec 2020 that'll be TM's plan

It's fairly simple, Which do you want ?
 
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pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
You're going round in circles

So, to be clear then, what do think we should do, WTO no deal or TM's plan ?

To be clear, i am one of those people that understands the negotiations are still ongoing.
Seems daft for you to be offering an either or option now before they have concluded.Much can happen yet.
 


WATFORD zero

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 10, 2003
25,796
To be clear, i am one of those people that understands the negotiations are still ongoing.
Seems daft for you to be offering an either or option now before they have concluded.Much can happen yet.

So 2.5 years on, you still don't know what you want :facepalm:

Thinking about it, you are probably one of the very few happy Brexiteers around, still don't know what you want and still don't know what you're going to get :lolol:
 




pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
If you claim we have until Dec 2020 that'll be TM's plan

Since you edited....

Are you a fvckwit? It was you who said the "agreed solution" scenario and implementation of 7 months. I simply pointed out to you if there was an agreement 7 months is wrong, because currently the agreement as it stands at the moment has an implementation period going on to dec 2020.
Stop being so stupid.
 


pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
So 2.5 years on, you still don't know what you want :facepalm:

Thinking about it, you are probably one of the very few happy Brexiteers around, still don't know what you want and still don't know what you're going to get :lolol:

Its an ongoing negotiation you utter imbecile,that everyone apart from you it seems knew had a 2 year timeline according to article 50.
I still want out of the EU as i did before........you must be really dim not to know this.
 


Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
Seriously fella, don't bother with him. He accuses everybody of being a second account, and is unbelievably thick. He's just not worth it.

:lolol:Another stalker.Just happened to be passing by the thread and thought you'd stick your two punts worth in?
 




WATFORD zero

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 10, 2003
25,796
Its an ongoing negotiation you utter imbecile,that everyone apart from you it seems knew had a 2 year timeline according to article 50.
I still want out of the EU as i did before........you must be really dim not to know this.

You really should calm down, maybe a bit of puff and porn ?
 








Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
You really have a very high opinion of yourself, don't you?

Which is staggering, considering that you have the brain power of an amoeba.

The only thing staggering on here is you.Quite how you jump to an amoeba having a brain must be something to do with the bats in your belfry,so Pogue Mahone yourself,with no KY.
 


Pogue Mahone

Well-known member
Apr 30, 2011
10,733
The only thing staggering on here is you.Quite how you jump to an amoeba having a brain must be something to do with the bats in your belfry,so Pogue Mahone yourself,with no KY.

Kissing doesn't require KY.

I never said an amoeba had a brain. I said that you have the brain of an amoeba.

Frankly, you are thick as shit.
 












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