Actually it doesn't make the referendum result null and void. Why ? Because, as remainers take delight in telling us so often, it was an advisory referendum. It was an act of Parliament that activated Article 50 not the referendum.
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[Politics] Brexit
- Thread starter KingstonSeagull
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Actually it doesn't make the referendum result null and void. Why ? Because, as remainers take delight in telling us so often, it was an advisory referendum. It was an act of Parliament that activated Article 50 not the referendum.
Paul Wood at the BBC has written various articles on all of this.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Writing articles which aren't widely read. This should be reported and investigated on main tv channels.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Article 50 can be revoked at any time right up to March 29th. Yes, it was an act of Parliament but based on lies, and deceit.
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
Interesting. So it doesn't make the actual result of the referendum null and void, because the referendum was advisory? Therefore if the referendum was binary it would have? Or is it because Article 50 is a separate process, subject to an act of parliament that could be revoked with another act, but it doesn't really matter anyway because Brexit means Brexit? Or is it just the case that you're playing the whataboutery card and don't know really what you're talking about?
Baldseagull
Well-known member
I agree that as much control as possible should be as local as possible, but clearly some things are best dealt with at the widest possible level. The referendum was just about maintaining the status quo though, it is in UK law that any further treaties or amendments of existing treaties would require a referendum to agree it before the UK could sign up, so if the status quo was OK with you, you voted the wrong way.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Nigel Farage still deceiving the people.
On LBC at 7pm
https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nigel-farage/the-nigel-farage-show-3rd-july-2018/
https://twitter.com/jonathan_church/status/1014427371078930432
[tweet]1014427371078930432[/tweet]
Even better (because we know he was on LBC at the time of the match)
https://twitter.com/danielstorey85/status/1014454611510546432
[tweet]1014454611510546432[/tweet]
On LBC at 7pm
https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nigel-farage/the-nigel-farage-show-3rd-july-2018/
https://twitter.com/jonathan_church/status/1014427371078930432
[tweet]1014427371078930432[/tweet]
Even better (because we know he was on LBC at the time of the match)
https://twitter.com/danielstorey85/status/1014454611510546432
[tweet]1014454611510546432[/tweet]
Baldseagull
Well-known member
You think access to a market of 250 million people without impediment nullifies our strengths as a services orientated economy?
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Seriously who gives a ******* shit.
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
I thought that about Euro 96 when I saw his Tweet too. In fairness to the 'man of the people' England were playing India at Lord's in the 2nd Test when we played Spain, so he was probably in an executive box there, in a blazer with a panama hat on, drinking Veuve Clicquot talking to his chums from school and the city.
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
So are you saying that England won by lies and deceit,so the result should be null and void?
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
Are you sure?That many French gone home already?
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
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It's the over 25% from the EU that's the problem.They've put house prices up way beyond what the entitled generation can afford.
no, EU workers earning £10p/h are not responsible for house prices averaging >£500k. these sorts of views are an embarrassment to the leave cause.
Love how remainers play the whataboutery card when they don't understand. So, the Electoral Commission investigated Leave EU a while back and decided there was no firm case to answer. A legal expert in these matters pushed the matter which forced the commission to investigate further. That lead to today's revelations. That same legal expert was asked today on Radio 4 if that meant the referendum result could be voided and the referendum re-run. His answer was no, as the referendum was advisory and the act of leaving the EU was entirely decided by parliament and can only be reversed by parliament. Therefore all this getting excited about over turning the result based on this investigation is pointless .... nothing more than a sideshow giving some remainers a wet dream.
Baldseagull
Well-known member
No legal requirement to reject the advisory result and overturn A50, it does make it a little more politically acceptable though.
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
I understand entirely, hence I wasn't talking about the referendum result being voided simply because it was advisory or otherwise as you still are, and Brexit means Brexit being reversed as a consequence. Article 50 has now been invoked and is law and it can only be revoked by another act of parliament.
nicko31
Well-known member
The waters around Brexit just get murkier and murkier. UK democracy really is under attack, sadly the Tories have not helped
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
My figures are based on the 2011 census. We obviously have had 5 whole years of Theresa May as Tory Home Secretary since then, presiding over her hostile environment on immigration and successfully running the 'tens of thousands' net migration target, such as 2015's 330,000+ figure, including 90,000 Tier 2 visas issued to non-EEA nationals by The Home Office, so I concede it could be higher now.
pastafarian
Well-known member
When the lib dems and the official remain campaign were fined by the commission for breaches during the referendum did you call for all remain votes to be null and void?
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
I am not on about people on the minimum wage.Lots of French top earners,the largest by number,live in London to try and avoid the top rates of tax.Nothing embarassing about that,unless you are a tax avoider,like some of the remainers on here.
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