Oh 'access' as in limited access - screw the economy style access - and you complain about ppl being disengenious - as the previous poster said 'being a part of the single market' is an important for a significant portion of the population and you dismiss this saying people were given clear choices and opted against this, despite Leave saying both control of immigration and enjoyment of economic benefits were possible.
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Oh 'access' as in limited access - screw the economy style access - and you complain about ppl being disengenious - as the previous poster said 'being a part of the single market' is an important for a significant portion of the population and you dismiss this saying people were given clear choices and opted against this, despite Leave saying both control of immigration and enjoyment of economic benefits were possible.
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
- 10,568
To recap .. your previous claim all polling said prioritising trade over immigration was the case is complete and utter bollox. You then conflated access to the single /internal market with membership.
People were given a very clear choice. The Remain camp main argument was leaving would have a significant/disastrous economic impact. The electorate heard this message then a majority decided on a different path. Stating we could have more control of our immigration and enjoy economic benefits after regaining more control after leaving is an indisputable fact. Claiming the net loss would outway these 'benefits' is a matter of opinion/conjecture.
Ok, the first line is wrong, want to check that for starters?
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Boris sways with the wind. If he sees Brexit as becoming a mess, he will switch sides just to fulfil his personal ambitions.
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
- 10,568
Ok, you said..
I have provided polling evidence which shows controlling immigration is a bigger factor than trade access in numerous polls. Care to show your workings/evidence?
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 35,303
they are independent treaties, until we invoke Article 127 we remain in the Single Market it describes. doesnt cover Customs Union though, so perhaps we'll hear more about this in the coming months?
- Jul 10, 2003
- 25,809
I feel like I should start a poll, 'How much longer will we continue to pay to be members of the single market?'
Obviously there is Dec 2020 and Dec 2021, but what other options do you think I should put on the poll?
Obviously there is Dec 2020 and Dec 2021, but what other options do you think I should put on the poll?
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
- 10,568
Speaking of polls. How many EU members are allowed to negotiate and sign their own trade deals?
Wrong again....checking forum posts should be simple?
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
The infamous Take back Control. We always had control of our borders. Brexit lied about Turkey joining the EU, and had posters saying our borders were now with Syria. People were led to believe that hundreds of thousands of refugees were going to pour into Britain from Syria. Very misleading.
Immigration has been forced down, causing problems for universities who rely on overseas students paying full whack for their courses. Doctors have been refused visas to come and work in our NHS because the Tories want to run down the NHS to privatise it.
People that have lived here for decades coming over as children getting locked up, ready for deportation because they couldn't find sufficient documentation to prove they'd been here since the 50s/60s and 70s. Oh yes, we had control, especially once Theresa May changed the rules in 2015.
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
- 10,568
No evidence at all then ..Quelle surprise. Next question, are we in the Eurozone?
You can't be bothered to check simple facts or you don't want to admit that you are wrong?
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
- 10,568
Ok, if we wanted to stop all EU citizens from entering the country tomorrow ... would this be legally possible?
If Turkey was never going to join please explain the fact Turkey has been an EU accession country for years with billions of EU funding bringing them ever closer to entry-level criteria.
Net immigration has only dropped since the referendum result. Are you in favour of mass immigration or controlled immigration where all immigrants are treated equally regardless of race creed or colour or country of origin. If the latter you shouldn't be in favour of ongoing EU membership.
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
- 10,568
Provide the polling evidence that supports your pov. I Did ..
I'm still waiting for you to provide some links to the polls.you said existed - I couldn't find them and even posted evidence that staying/leaving the CU was neck and neck. So do your polls not really exist ?
Despite Call Me Dave stating in a public speech that he would support and assist Turkey joining
I ask you for a 4th time where do I make any claims about polls? Are you confused...hint get the quote with the name. Reading forum posts should be simple
These polls exist in some imaginary debate about polls
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
- 10,568
wow...getting closer....spot the difference....?