You appear to be unable to make simple connections.
Are you in control of your own thought processes?
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[Politics] Brexit
- Thread starter KingstonSeagull
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You appear to be unable to make simple connections.
Are you in control of your own thought processes?
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No it doesn't. Please think broadly. This is not a simple issue.
The EU is not perfect, but destruction of the EU is not perfect either.
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East Preston Gull
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Stands up and claps slowly with others joining in and soon everyone is clapping and whooping with joy.
100% exactly this.
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GT49er
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Outside watching the EU struggle sounds fine to me. Mutterings from across the pond seem to be suggesting that a Brexit will cause financial problems for the EU too. Like most 'inners' facts, that is also speculation, but whatever.......that'll be the EU's problem. Not our's
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pastafarian
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I want to be as far away as possible from the car crash when it happens,i dont want the UK involved and desperately working and looking with other other EU partners for the nearest lifeboat.
get out now,stop being EU insular and isolationist and lets stretch our reach to trading with the rest of the world(and of course the EU) on our terms.....its win win
Bladders
Twats everywhere
The EU is like FIFA. Bloated, broken and needs putting to sleep and starting again.
It really needs to go back to what it was supposed to be about which was free trade. That is all. Not heading towards some super state which you know is the end goal.
GT49er
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Thank you. Proof of what I said.
cunning fergus
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- Jan 18, 2009
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What influence has the electorate had in this country about anything significant that the EU has done in recent years, or intends to do in the future?
On the contrary British politicians lied about the far reaching effects of the Lisbon Treaty, an all but re-warmed EU constitution that had been rejected by the French and Dutch electorates. Mandelson referred to it as a "tidying up exercise" despite Labour offering a referendum in its 2005 manifesto. Brown was so embarrassed he did not take part in the Treaty celebrations........skulking in on the quiet to sign it.
The expansion of the EU into Eastern Europe was never sold to the British electorate, it happened anyway with all the profound consequences we have since witnessed. At the time we were told we would expect 15,000 poles to arrive, this was at a time very few people understood that the Lisbon Treaty had effectively swept away our ability to manage our borders.
The effects of the EU's mismanagement of Its borders are now coming home to roost with the same old solution of more Europe needed. This solution now means further expansion of the EU to include Turkey........who the f**k has sold this to the EU electorate? Do you think we will get a vote?
Influence you say..........you must be f**king mental.
The arrogance of this statement is breath-taking. The empire is over my friend.
Proof of the fact that you're unable to see connections.
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When the terraced house next door starts burning down you don't automatically assume that you are safe.
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Few people I know actually bother reading your posts these days. You'd get your message across much better if you didn't resort to this sort of behaviour.
Emotional hogwash.
I'm out of this thread for the day.
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Bladders
Twats everywhere
pastafarian
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it is isnt it
it was a poor turn of phrase i admit
i should have said something along the line of in our interests.
will you ever forgive me?
cunning fergus
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- Jan 18, 2009
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I wouldn't need to "resort to such behaviour" if individuals did not make points that are patently untrue.
If you think the people of Europe will get a vote on further EU expansionism you are either deluded or mad, the only precedent that exists is EU expansionism without any democratic mandate.
That is a fact, get over it and start justifying it...........don't say we will have a say.
If the EU Referendum was today.
And neither does yours sweetie.
Tatty bye.
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Your delusion knows no bounds.
See you tomorrow.
And neither does yours sweetie.
Tatty bye.
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pastafarian
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1/how on earth do you know who is reading what post at any given time on NSC
2/ it would appear from the thread and comments on it that cunnings input is welcomed considering his ban elsewhere
If we weren't already in, and you had the opportunity to vote whether to join the EU or not - how would you vote?
To me that's the clincher - why would anyone look at the EU from the outside and see it as a club that we want to join?
pastafarian
Well-known member
Precisely
If someone said to you we are going to join a trade club it looks ok on paper as a trade deal only
you would say sounds good
if they added oh by the way we want years down the line a federal club where you need to give up sovereign and judicial powers,and you cant vote out the lawmakers ......are you still interested in joining?
no dickheads would sign up to that