Or maybe those EU citizens should have waited to see what the policy was going to be before filling out those 85 pages and paying legal costs
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[Politics] Brexit
- Thread starter KingstonSeagull
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Or maybe those EU citizens should have waited to see what the policy was going to be before filling out those 85 pages and paying legal costs
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
Or maybe those EU citizens should have waited to see what the policy was going to be before filling out those 85 pages and paying legal costs
Maybe The Home Office could have told them that? 100,000+ backlog now.
I wonder if they'll have to carry their new 'settled status' ID cards on them at all times though.
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
- 10,568
'Continues to evolve'.. what a lovely turn of phrase. You mean attempt to sneak away from their manifesto position which they made up on the hoof to attract UKIP/Labour votes.
pastafarian
Well-known member
No it isn’t.
Good to see it was mentioned numerous times in the House this afternoon, and confirmed by TM that she has reinforced just this very point to her European counterparts.
pastafarian
Well-known member
Nope
Lincoln Imp
Well-known member
- Feb 2, 2009
- 5,964
'Continues to evolve'.. what a lovely turn of phrase. You mean attempt to sneak away from their manifesto position which they made up on the hoof to attract UKIP/Labour votes.
Great stuff. Most people who turned out on 23 June voted Leave but the margin was small and even the man in charge of Vote Leave admits that a lie won the victory and if there hadn't been the lie there wouldn't have been the victory. I accept that to leave is the default position and I understand why you want the 23 June vote preserved in aspic but to me it seems reasonable to take heed of changes in the public mood should they happen.
If this offends your principles then I assume you're incandescent on behalf of those poor people who voted Tory because they wanted to hunt foxes and send their children to grammar schools and divert funds away from wealthy pensioners and now find that the government has abandoned all promises within days.
portslade seagull
Well-known member
Plenty of overtime then for the penpushers
Lincoln Imp
Well-known member
- Feb 2, 2009
- 5,964
I believe it is a misleading over-simplification for the reasons I gave. The fact that it is the latest official Brexit buzzphrase doesn't make it meaningful.
The natural extension of your position is that everyone who voted Labour must be in favour of Trident, given that renewing Trident is the official policy of the Labour Party.
daveinprague
New member
Its the Tories that have ****ed this up. Nobody else, but spin it as much as you want, and try and blame everybody else. It would be entertaining but for the cost of it.
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ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
140+ years worth if all EU citizens residing here had followed the 85 page residency route with existing Home Office resources.
It'll be interesting if the 'settled status' is an actual bio-metric ID card, like current residency cards are or just a photocopied piece of paper sent in the post from Sheffield for £50 a pop, like the A8 Worker Registration Scheme was.
portslade seagull
Well-known member
Wonder if they would give me a part time role to help
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
- 10,568
Well that's one person's opinion, obviously you agree with it so it must be true. Thanks for finally accepting the inevitable. Of course you believe we should heed changes in the public mood as you think the mood is heading in your direction.
No idea what the last bit's about
pastafarian
Well-known member
It’s a factually correct statement to say the % involved did vote for parties that are committed to leaving the European Union. You can read more into that simple fact if you wish.
This stat has definitely got the hard core remainers frothing though. Soubrys face was a picture on one occasion it was mentioned today.
Lincoln Imp
Well-known member
- Feb 2, 2009
- 5,964
Oh please! You know perfectly well what the implication of that statement was. Don't be so silly.
Lincoln Imp
Well-known member
- Feb 2, 2009
- 5,964
It was hardly just "one person" was it? It was a leader of the campaign you so fervently support, telling us that victory was built on a lie.
Of course you believe that we should ignore changes in the public mood if you think the mood is heading away from your direction. I'd not expect otherwise.
- Jan 3, 2012
- 16,597
Anybody who voted Leave thinking it would be a quick and easy programme was way, way off the mark. My son-in-law works for HMRC, and the potential implications of coming out of it all are horrendous, both financial and otherwise.
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
- 10,568
Yes but according to you the PM, Chancellor, and numerous leading lights on the Leave side telling us a vote to Leave meant exiting the single market doesn't count ..
I didn't say ignore it just amused at your sudden new found interest in the opinion of the Great British public.
GT49er
Well-known member
That's bollox I - and many other leavers (including some I know personally) - voted leave knowing full well it was a lie, almost as big a lie as, or at least equal to, Project Fear. Do you seriously think that remainers are the only people who have a built-in lie detector? - very naïve if you do.
GT49er
Well-known member
And therefore it's probably safe to assume that leavers who work for HMRC think exactly the opposite.
- Jan 3, 2012
- 16,597
I think that Leavers who work for HMRC would realise that every single lorry coming in to the Country and going out of the country will have to be checked at the Channel Port. Staff? Premises and facilities? Avoiding gridlock in Kent?