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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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Jim D

Well-known member
Jul 23, 2003
5,249
Worthing
There's none behind the bar in my Wetherspoons either. Perhaps you should direct your questions to Mr Martin on why he's lobbying the Government for access to EU workers exactly as before after Brexit having campaigned for it though rather me now?

Maybe Mr Martin is thinking outside of his own little bubble, or doesn't want to affect his produce supply.
 




Jim D

Well-known member
Jul 23, 2003
5,249
Worthing
Or perhaps your one weatherspoons is not representative of the whole country, maybe. This is the best kind of evidence based on one observation.

Great to see 350 million is back. Are we supposed to believe it this time?

You're possibly correct but then again maybe not. From memory, I don't recall many, if any, non-UK barstaff in their other premises I've been to.
Regarding the £350m, the only benefit we'll get is the ability to spend it as we see fit - without the EU saying where it should go. It would seem that Boris is trying to influence the speech that May will give next week.
 


ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
14,748
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
Maybe Mr Martin is thinking outside of his own little bubble, or doesn't want to affect his produce supply.

Or perhaps of staffing his pubs in London and elsewhere in the country? I believe 1 in 10 of his total workforce is EU - I'd hazard a guess it's much more than 1 in 10 in Greater London.

Anyway he said yesterday that if needs must, he'll teach the EU a lesson and switch to suppliers from outside The EU - Nigerian strength Guinness, Castle Lager, Hansa Pilsner and St. Louis Special Light from Botswana here we come:thumbsup: - Carlsberg drinkers won't notice the difference from the Gnats piss they drink currently if they're forced to switch to the latter anyway, so no worries on that score.
 




portslade seagull

Well-known member
Jul 19, 2003
17,617
portslade
Or perhaps of staffing his pubs in London and elsewhere in the country? I believe 1 in 10 of his total workforce is EU - I'd hazard a guess it's much more than 1 in 10 in Greater London.

Anyway he said yesterday that if needs must, he'll teach the EU a lesson and switch to suppliers from outside The EU - Nigerian strength Guinness, Castle Lager, Hansa Pilsner and St. Louis Special Light from Botswana here we come:thumbsup: - Carlsberg drinkers won't notice the difference from the Gnats piss they drink currently if they're forced to switch to the latter anyway, so no worries on that score.

The EU or its main exporters are more worried about what they will lose. It's not like they can just go out and agree another trade deal as there are 27 mitts in the pie.
 








brighton fella

New member
Mar 20, 2009
1,645
Like I said the original leftie Aka beast of Bolsover now being targeted by the newbie leftie extremists.

The new left post Blair are a disgrace to any proper Labiour..supporters as well. I don't particularly like Labour myself but at least you knew where you stood with old Labour.. as they brought with them a certain amount of integrity and principle. . sadly though this was before they were replaced/ hijacked by this new breed of disgusting vile fascist we see in support of them up and down the country today.
 


Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
The EU or its main exporters are more worried about what they will lose. It's not like they can just go out and agree another trade deal as there are 27 mitts in the pie.

It will be a shame if Kopperberg lose their biggest customer,but if that's the way the EU wants to play,who cares?
 


JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
I can think of a couple of pubs in my neck of the woods that sell pints for £2.50 a pint on special offers. They make 'spoons in Hastings look like Sun City in comparison.

I agree that 'substantial proportion' is a vague, generalised term, 'less fortunate' is perhaps the more derogatory stereotypical term for Wetherspoon's clientele you use. As a Wetherpoon's drinker once-or-twice a week myself, I feel patronised and condescended at now. I should expect nothing less from you, one of Amber Rudd's henchmen though. :p

Hah! .. misrepresenting the point so you can play the victim card very Diane Abbott. I should expect nothing less from you, one of Corbyn's Commissars :flounce:
 




ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
14,748
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
Hah! .. misrepresenting the point so you can play the victim card very Diane Abbott. I should expect nothing less from you, one of Corbyn's Commissars :flounce:

You've got Diane Abbott on the brain man! :facepalm:

Please stop taunting me though, I'm just an innocent Wetherpsoon's drinker and I can't take anymore of your insults about it. :cry:

I'm still trying to come to terms with the fact that not only has Bexhill a Wetherspoon's now but my favourite blonde barmaid, who fancied me because she's always rush over to serve me ahead of anyone else, has been seconded over there along with all her tattoos. Sometimes I'd walk up to the bar and I didn't even have to speak - she'd just pour, I'd pay and we'd go our separate ways, like strangers in the night :love:

On the subject of Bexhill Wetherspoon's though - what can I say? The best £3m spent ever. The history books of Bexhill-On-Sea and indeed Sussex need ripping up and re-writing. It's even got an elevator next to it's grand staircase! A pub with a glass elevator!? I would say if you've seen one staircase, you've seen them all, but frankly as staircases go there's that one on The Titanic, Wetherspoon's in Bexhill, then the rest.
 


portslade seagull

Well-known member
Jul 19, 2003
17,617
portslade
You've got Diane Abbott on the brain man! :facepalm:

Please stop taunting me though, I'm just an innocent Wetherpsoon's drinker and I can't take anymore of your insults about it. :cry:

I'm still trying to come to terms with the fact that not only has Bexhill a Wetherspoon's now but my favourite blonde barmaid, who fancied me because she's always rush over to serve me ahead of anyone else, has been seconded over there along with all her tattoos. Sometimes I'd walk up to the bar and I didn't even have to speak - she'd just pour, I'd pay and we'd go our separate ways, like strangers in the night :love:

On the subject of Bexhill Wetherspoon's though - what can I say? The best £3m spent ever. The history books of Bexhill-On-Sea and indeed Sussex need ripping up and re-writing. It's even got an elevator next to it's grand staircase! A pub with a glass elevator!? I would say if you've seen one staircase, you've seen them all, but frankly as staircases go there's that one on The Titanic, Wetherspoon's in Bexhill, then the rest.

Anybody that has Diane Abbott on the brain is living a perpetual never ending nightmare.
 






pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
nice to see the BBC down in the port of BILBAO this morning highlighting the latest" MIGRANT" smuggling hotspot, just the sort of exposure that's needed
regards
DR

Interesting to see economic migrants seeking prosperity and a better life using this route. I would have thought jumping on a train from London to Paris would be a better option?

Makes you wonder doesn’t it, if you believe some remainers on here we are a nation of Little Englanders awash with xenophobia and racist behaviour, a nation either in the throws of economic collapse according to some or on the brink of economic meltdown or suffering an economic crisis, a country which has now withdrawn itself into an insular island mentality separating itself from the rest of the world, a country where the prospects are grim and educated clever people cant wait to leave for somewhere more enlightening, a nation that will soon be out of the wonderful organisation called the EU but now a hopeless basketcase prospect because of it.

Yet people are still coming here in their thousands and thousands and choosing GREAT Britain over other European countries as their destination, and the people at Bilbao highlighted by Ppf would rather come to us illegally than travel over non existent borders unchecked to the likes of Germany, France, Italy or elsewhere in the EU Schengen area, countries that must be a really really crud prospect for these people.

Either these numerous thousands of people still coming here havnt yet heard the remainer rhetoric about the UK or they have and have simply concluded like millions of others that they are all talking out of their arse.
 


pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
Very good interview with Dennis Skinner - Would be interested to hear any counter arguments against what he says.



Good old beast, he is quite correct about the loss of sovereignty and the loss of his parliamentary influence as powers were moved to Brussels.Real socialists like him and Corbyn have always been against the EU,
Still remains one of my if not my favourite MP, he has been a great servant to parliament and his constituents, its sad to see him now being called " the scab of Bolsover" and the momentum youngsters laying into him on social media , what a horrible brainwashed bunch of fake socialist imbeciles they are.
 


The Clamp

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 11, 2016
24,538
West is BEST
Good old beast, he is quite correct about the loss of sovereignty and the loss of his parliamentary influence as powers were moved to Brussels.Real socialists like him and Corbyn have always been against the EU,
Still remains one of my if not my favourite MP, he has been a great servant to parliament and his constituents, its sad to see him now being called " the scab of Bolsover" and the momentum youngsters laying into him on social media , what a horrible brainwashed bunch of fake socialist imbeciles they are.

Not surprising you side with a silly old out of date fool. Kindred spirits.

So for 40 years he rallied against being in the EU. He should surely have just accepted the result and made the most of it. How dare he still argue for his beliefs just because other people don't agree with them.
 






ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
14,748
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
Makes you wonder doesn’t it, if you believe some remainers on here we are a nation of Little Englanders awash with xenophobia and racist behaviour, a nation either in the throws of economic collapse according to some or on the brink of economic meltdown or suffering an economic crisis, a country which has now withdrawn itself into an insular island mentality separating itself from the rest of the world, a country where the prospects are grim and educated clever people cant wait to leave for somewhere more enlightening, a nation that will soon be out of the wonderful organisation called the EU but now a hopeless basketcase prospect because of it.

Yet people are still coming here in their thousands and thousands and choosing GREAT Britain over other European countries as their destination, and the people at Bilbao highlighted by Ppf would rather come to us illegally than travel over non existent borders unchecked to the likes of Germany, France, Italy or elsewhere in the EU Schengen area, countries that must be a really really crud prospect for these people.

Either these numerous thousands of people still coming here havnt yet heard the remainer rhetoric about the UK or they have and have simply concluded like millions of others that they are all talking out of their arse.

My take would be that they simply haven't heard I'm afraid and they're simply not interested or informed on UK or European politics. You're also talking about desperate people, coming from desperate situations in developing countries or fleeing Islamic extremism to come to The UK - the land of milk and honey where they will be welcome with open arms, even if their Muslim.

I'll give you some examples though - I remember when I lived in Africa and was asked about The UK the reaction, pretty much by-and-large when the 'L' word is mentioned was - eyes light up. The streets of London are literally paved with gold to them. It honestly has a mystical status. Everyone's rich - like really rich apparently. It was pointless and insulting talking about and comparing poverty in The UK to them, but if I mentioned homelessness in The UK they wouldn't believe me. I was once accused of lying when I said there are ex-service personnel who served Queen and country sleeping rough. I was told The Queen would never allow such a thing apparently, because no African leader would treat war veterans like that. I was once told France has no black people living there for example, only The UK. I was once asked is Germany rich. I was told Russia is a good country and they like Africans there apparently by one bloke. (That one did make me laugh out loud) What country is Ashley Cole from was another good question...................I think you get the gist.

As for The EU and Schengen, when some people can't comprehend that Manchester Utd and Old Trafford aren't actually in London and when by way of an example I explain that Manchester and London are 2 different cities, about the same difference apart as Harare and Bulawayo, and I'm then asked if Manchester is similar to Bulawayo, you can see my point.
 


nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,610
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