I saw a bit of that and I thought the embarrassment was the other woman. She didn't seem to have any understanding of what was going on and had a really irritating grin.
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[Politics] Brexit
- Thread starter KingstonSeagull
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I saw a bit of that and I thought the embarrassment was the other woman. She didn't seem to have any understanding of what was going on and had a really irritating grin.
pastafarian
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The government and the EU have agreed #### all so far…….see the difference?Two sides in the talks.
Saying that, with only a few weeks of actual sit down talks under their belt so far it would be a miracle if things were at an advanced stage already…….i can however see the frustration of the I want everything now brigade who seem to lack any kind of pragmatic patience nowadays.
You must be a little crackers if you think a cross party group of Tories, Labour, Liberal, SNP, DUP, Plaid Cymru, Ulster Unionist, Green and UKIP are going to be any kind of united body on Brexit. It would take them a 100 years to agree the representation of the group.
pastafarian
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It really doesnt
The UK decided to leave. If I'm with someone and they decide to leave the onus isn't on me to chase them and ask them to return....unless I want to.
Or maybe I'm just too steeped in grown up German politics where this happens every election to great effect?
- Jul 10, 2003
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That rules out most of Labour and the Majority of Tory MPs.
It will give you a choice of 138 Tory MPs, 10 Labour and 8 DUP from which to build your 'A' Team as you've ruled out the other 479
Going through the ones who backed Brexit, I'm dying to know who this team is going to consist of ? The Tory party couldn't find an electable leader and front bench that didn't vote Remain and you're going to find a whole team ?
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That rules out most of Labour and the Majority of Tory MPs.
It will give you a choice of 138 Tory MPs, 10 Labour and 8 DUP from which to build your 'A' Team as you've ruled out the other 479
Going through the ones who backed Brexit, I'm dying to know who this team is going to consist of ?
Yep, that's exactly the problem we have with the current lot of MPs. Maybe we should invite JC and MaccyD to join the group - even though they were on the remain side we all know they weren't really.
- Jul 10, 2003
- 25,843
So the problem is that the vast majority of MPs, from all sides, and particularly the senior ones who may have to try to implement Brexit all backed remain because they thought it may be better for Britain to remain. And because we have remainers negotiating, that's why it's going badly ?
Well I certainly didn't see that one coming
Not sure I said they all had did I? I thought I said people were starting to and how many need to before people accept it. Surely you appreciate virtually all politicians will change direction based on one comment from the chief whip? I am not sure that this would apply to JRM and Peter bone but the majority would flip overnight.
Parliament is supposed to represent us all...so no it should consist of just one type of person.
In a general election we quite rightly vote for our future leaders but the referendum wasn't organised that way. In this case we should have a 'leave coalition' made up of people that want to leave - and it should also include non-MPs from the leave campaign.
care to explain why?
- Jul 10, 2003
- 25,843
Because the vast majority of MPs who voted leave are a fairly motley collection who would shag their own mothers for the slightest career 'opportunity', so it would make more sense to just randomly choose people with no knowledge or experience to negotiate our future
Because the vast majority of MPs who voted leave are a fairly motley collection who would shag their own mothers for the slightest career 'opportunity', so it would make more sense to just randomly choose people with no knowledge or experience to negotiate our future
And you wonder why you're called Remoaners.
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
Funnily enough,I watched on Spanish tv and the Spanish news team were doing a comparison with Catalonia.Perhaps Sky are trying take news now!
Because, as everyone in the country will be affected by this, we need to be represented by leavers from all parts of the political spectrum. This would stop all the bickering and point scoring between the parties over who's approach to Brexit was the best. The remainers would still be remoaners, but at least we wouldn't be getting all this 'Labour would have done better' nonsense. As for non-MPs, it makes sense to have input from all those with an interest. This would include MEPs and academics.
GT49er
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If your partner decides to leave, you don't demand a large sum of money up front before you'll agree to even begin to discuss who gets the children/the dog/the DVDs/the best cutlery, etc.
If they leave and leave you with long term financial commitments such as cars on loan, credit card debts and a massive mortgage sorting that comes very early in a chat doesn't it? Granted the relationship analogy is crap as decisions are quicker than two years. I am pretty sure that in a divorce all long term financial commitments need to be sorted out don't they?
This isn't a fine or some other thing, it is funding that was agreed based on us being in the EU. Isn't it just honouring debts?
The right amount can be debated but just refusing to pay won't work will it?
Perhaps if you had some highly incriminating evidence against them that you know they would pay anything to avoid it getting out? What could that be and who would it involve?
nicko31
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You're wasting your time, some people on here don't understand how parliament works