Financially poor Greece have not a hope in hell of making the payments to the Fatherland, they are not even paying off the interest, poor buggers.
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[Politics] Brexit
- Thread starter KingstonSeagull
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Financially poor Greece have not a hope in hell of making the payments to the Fatherland, they are not even paying off the interest, poor buggers.
Lincoln Imp
Well-known member
- Feb 2, 2009
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I too am revolted by people like this, and it must have been especially upsetting for your sister and brother in law. I sympathise. My query was simply about the implication that she had changed her political views as a result. I am pleased to learn that in fact she didn't.
Incidentally, I didn't see any TV coverage of the march, mainly because I watch relatively little TV. It was a media analyst on Sky who pointed out that the BBC coverage was far lighter than would have been predicted, and also far lighter than Sky's. Her suggestion that this was because the BBC was being threatened with financial penalties by the Tory Party's Brexit Wing is entirely plausible.
lawros left foot
Glory hunting since 1969
So, you would leave the ECHR? Do you accept it is not part of the EU, and that many countries that are members, are not EUmembers, presently? What internationally recognised body would you replace it with?
I personally, can't wait to see the PLAN.
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studio150
Well-known member
Seeing as you're back in and answering questions, what do you mean when you post 'spot on' ?
As i stated a British Bill Of Rights, i think the government are looking into this and over ruling the ECHR.
lawros left foot
Glory hunting since 1969
We already have a British Bill of Rights, it's one of a number of acts,bills,etc along with the Magna Carta that ensure our basic freedoms. Would this uncodified constitution be re-written into a written Constitution act for Great Britain, and how long woukd this take?
Or is this another part of the Great Plan, and one we weren't told about?
Baldseagull
Well-known member
You mean like the European Human rights the UK drafted before for Europe, only different? What bits do you want to change? Are you after more human rights, or less human rights for Britons?
As i stated a British Bill Of Rights, i think the government are looking into this and over ruling the ECHR. At the moment decisions are made by the ECHR, which is why the government are looking into over ruling the ECHR.
Why keep asking how long it would take, if i knew i would be an MP.
I was asked a question and i have answered "what are the key items you're looking for in the forthcoming negotiations?".
The British Bill Of Rights, in other words getting rid of the ECHR is one of those items.
Lets see what is put forward, we can decide on our own bill. We can decide which ones we want to keep and which ones we do not want, in our hands.
lawros left foot
Glory hunting since 1969
Basically then, you just want to get rid of the ECHR jurisdiction in Great Britain, but have no idea what to replace it with. I hope all those Brexiteer politicians have a better grasp of what we could end up with .
daveinprague
New member
'Hope', 'maybe', 'possibly', 'Let's wait and see'. It's quite a plan
What did we do before the ECHR. I was asked a question, i answered it. The British Bill of Rights will replace it, i want out of the EU, decisions made in the UK, why would i want to hang on to the ECHR when we can have our own rules. Just my opinion whether you like it or not.
"I hope all those Brexiteer politicians have a better grasp of what we could end up with .[/QUOTE], more scaremongering, lets get the decisions back in our own hands.
studio150
Well-known member
You were asked what do you mean by spot on
Where is your answer can't say I've seen it
lawros left foot
Glory hunting since 1969
, more scaremongering, lets get the decisions back in our own hands.[/QUOTE]
When did fair comment become 'scaremongering ?
I hope we come out of Brexit very well, but, what I've seen so far, doesn't fill me with any confidence. I've never really trusted politicians on the right of the political spectrum, and the other parties appear to be completely ineffective at the moment, still, in years to come it will provide excellent subject matter for University political science courses.
As the Chinese curse says " May you live in interesting times"
studio150
Well-known member
The same universities that are likely to have a brain drain when we are finally out as EU academics leave the UK and our universities fall down the world rankings.
When did fair comment become 'scaremongering ?
I hope we come out of Brexit very well, but, what I've seen so far, doesn't fill me with any confidence. I've never really trusted politicians on the right of the political spectrum, and the other parties appear to be completely ineffective at the moment, still, in years to come it will provide excellent subject matter for University political science courses.
As the Chinese curse says " May you live in interesting times"[/QUOTE]
Yes, i agree, i hope we come out of Brexit very well. We shall see, we both voted differently, it happens. Nice to see you do want us to come out of it well.
lawros left foot
Glory hunting since 1969
Yes, i agree, i hope we come out of Brexit very well. We shall see, we both voted differently, it happens. Nice to see you do want us to come out of it well.
[/QUOTE]I do, mainly for the poor *******s who voted remain, but also for the gullible *******s who voted leave. The minority who voted leave, for racist or xenophobic reasons, I wish nothing but personal disaster, and financial meltdown.
Yes yes, thats it, we are keen to replace ECHR with a British version whatever that might be, why is that such a difficult thing to comprehend ?
No doubt you were a supporter of the importance of Parliamentary scrutiny as paramount to our democracy with the Gina Miller challenge and vehemently defended the judiciary when their own impartiality was challenged at the same time, why now do you think they are unable to deliver a British Bill of Rights that might represent something that is established by them and serve the UK better rather than the risk of interventions from unelected judges from the EU ?
lawros left foot
Glory hunting since 1969
And no doubt, part of your reason for voting out,was precedence of of British Parliament over the unelected EU governance, but, you don't want our MPS, to have a meaningful say over the most important decisions in a lifetime.
As I stated in an earlier post, I have very little confidence in the right leaning politicians in the ascendancy in our Parliamentt
As I stated in an earlier post, I have very little confidence in the right leaning politicians in the ascendancy in our Parliamentt
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
- 27,890
Same here, Liam Fox has a dubious past career in politics to say the least.