It might take some a while to realise that we are a fraction of the EU's trade but they are an enormous part of ours. This means that they have the power in negotiations. No amount of spurious comparisons of us vs individual countries will hide the fact that we need trade with the EU far more than we need trade from them.
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[Politics] Brexit
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It might take some a while to realise that we are a fraction of the EU's trade but they are an enormous part of ours. This means that they have the power in negotiations. No amount of spurious comparisons of us vs individual countries will hide the fact that we need trade with the EU far more than we need trade from them.
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
'We were aware of his choice,but didn't really care what anyone else thinks-artistic choice'.Keep digging Auntie,not far to go now.
You don't appear to understand how this works. If they are not happy with something then they lose less by walking away.
Pretty pink fairy
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Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
Well,lets have a comparison between us and the EU then.I expect even you would find that weighting fair.We currently have a 96 billion euro deficit in trade with them,suggesting they might miss us a teen-weeny bit if they play hardball.Somebody needs to point that out to Barmier next week.
You are getting very hung up on that figure about the trade deficit. Now answer this. If trade stopped between EU and uk then who would be hurt the most.
A) the lot losing 40% of their export market
B) the lot losing 8% of their export market.
That is a simple question.
beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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its fairly simple, despite all the rhetoric about not using citizens as bargining chip, thats exactly what the EU has done. they are trying to force a massive compromise, deliberatly crossing redlines, in an attempt to derail the process. alas i believe the whole thing will be abandoned in the end because of this sort of tactics, as they wont agree to anything reasonable.
beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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and no amount of spurious claims will make our trade with EU disappear either. however the point being made is that the consequence of negative impact to trade occurs to both sides. you may want to focus on the % of the total because that suits your argument, but if no sensible trade deal leads to say 10% reduction in car sales to UK, thats going to have a tangible impact on GDP of major countries in EU. (the reverse is true, but less % because of the net flow to EU)
Well,I for one,hope you will continue to have your tax spent in poorer regions of Europe after Brexit!
That doesn't really make any sense.
that's choice coming form you NIBBLE
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DR
Oh that old chestnut.
If you mean me, I am happy to admit to insulting the likes of Pasta. He's a knobber. And you for that matter, you racist ballbag.
D
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Your right this is all done to stall, ruin us, so in the end we have no alternative but to Remain, and gets swung around by some parts of the media to make it look like we are the problem and not the other way around.
What I find most sad is that I can't believe some Remainers are happy for the EU to do this to us. We have said current EU citizens will retain all the rights they have now, so I really don't know what the EU want from us.
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Dorset Seagull
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Sorry but that's not how negotiations work. The idea is for both sides to get what they can which means making concessions along the way
portslade seagull
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I'm glad you said in the pipeline. How long is that pipeline of yours. I would think some of the UK deals will be completed before any of these
All you are seeing is the EU putting their citizens first. You'd expect any organization, body, nation etc to do the same. As you point out they are also looking out for us Brits in the EU. Putting people first should be applauded.
East Preston Gull
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The Poles are setting up their own judiciary system which does not fit into the ECJ's system of laws. The EU is slowly dying and we may appear callous in walking away from a dying corpse but we have to be the first to go and face the music whilst the others watch us with envy.
The union project is over folks.
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The union project is over folks.
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Dorset Seagull
Once Dolphin, Now Seagull
Do you think we have offered a poor deal?
Jesus wept. Is there no end to what you'll blame the EU for? Your negotiating team is woefully out of its depth, inept and inadequate and it's no ones fault but yours.
Yes. A very poor deal. I think is wrong to strip people's rights like this, in some cases birth rights. Offer them what they currently have and put an end to their worry.
Lincoln Imp
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'We were aware of his choice,but didn't really care what anyone else thinks-artistic choice'.Keep digging Auntie,not far to go now.
I'd really appreciate an explanation of what this means. The inverted comma at the beginning suggests that you might be quoting someone else, perhaps a person with sketchy knowledge of English and its word-spacing traditions. Whoever wrote it though, it doesn't make sense. Illumination please.