View Poll Results: Is Theresa May is out of her depth?

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    138 33.91%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hampster Gull View Post
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    The Sunday Times headline tomorrow is May secretly agrees £50bn Brexit bill. Only £50bn. A few pounds more than free. Negotiations going well then. How is she and the merry camp of Brexiteers going to fumble their way out of this one?. Perhaps she has got free access to the single market with no free labour movement cough or perhaps she is getting fully outmaneuvered. At least we are negotiating to our timeline and priorities cough
    you'll have to explain your position, as a remainer i gather - do you believe there should be no exit bill arrangement? what do you believe the exit bill should be, give or take 5bn.
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      Quote Originally Posted by beorhthelm View Post
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      you'll have to explain your position, as a remainer i gather - do you believe there should be no exit bill arrangement? what do you believe the exit bill should be, give or take 5bn.
      The exit bill should be -£18.2bn @350m a week and we should have unilateral free trade agreements lined up all around the world with our new willing partners and all the "foreigners" should also have packed their bags.

      You really are a worm and as usual your defence is to look for faults elsewhere rather than to attempt to justify a political promise which could never be met.
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      OK everybody, I am known on here for being a Tory boy, right wing, anti Jezza, not a fan of the Labour party, etc etc. That reputation is well deserved cos I am all of those things, I am also against unfettered immigration (trust me, mine ain't unfettered), benefits for all, basically I really do think that Jezza is a tool.

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      I personally would say that if Jezza were to throw Brexit in the bin and promise continued membership of the EU, albeit on hopefully better terms than before, then I would take it. I would vote forJezza in the next General Election as I believe it would be the best thing for the UK if he promised those things. And yes, I do still get a vote for quite a number of years.
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      OK everybody, I am known on here for being a Tory boy, right wing, anti Jezza, not a fan of the Labour party, etc etc. That reputation is well deserved cos I am all of those things, I am also against unfettered immigration (trust me, mine ain't unfettered), benefits for all, basically I really do think that Jezza is a tool.

      But..........

      I personally would say that if Jezza were to throw Brexit in the bin and promise continued membership of the EU, albeit on hopefully better terms than before, then I would take it. I would vote forJezza in the next General Election as I believe it would be the best thing for the UK if he promised those things. And yes, I do still get a vote for quite a number of years.
      All very worthy, but you have been a committed Remainer since prior to the referendum, no shame in that, but its no good spinning yourself now as some unbiased Brexit commentor.
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      All very worthy, but you have been an avid Remainer since prior to the referendum, no shame in that, but its no good spinning yourself now as some unbiased Brexit commentor.
      Oh I am biased, I am very big biased, so much so that I would vote for my arch nemesis as I believe it would be the best thing that I could do to save the UK from the calamity that is about to befall it. Five years of stupid socialism is a far smaller price to pay than 20 years of recovery from the wilderness that is Brexit.
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      The exit bill should be -£18.2bn @350m a week and we should have unilateral free trade agreements lined up all around the world with our new willing partners and all the "foreigners" should also have packed their bags.

      You really are a worm and as usual your defence is to look for faults elsewhere rather than to attempt to justify a political promise which could never be met.
      it would be nice to have reasoned debate, understanding the realities and parking the rhetoric.

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      I personally would say that if Jezza were to throw Brexit in the bin and promise continued membership of the EU, albeit on hopefully better terms than before, then I would take it.
      Corbyn is not in favour of the EU, as he cant deliver his vision of socialist utopia within the constrains of EU. he certainly wouldnt get "better terms" where Cameron was told to naff off and the current strategy is to make everything as difficult as possible. if we reverse brexit entirely i foresee the EU using the position to revoke the rebate, and will accelerate plans to force all members on to the Euro, common foreign policy, EU army and other institutions of single state.
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      So now the dim and deluded have taken to quoting a Murdoch newspaper?
      I reckon 30 billion would be about right,given our average contribution of 350 million a week for our remaining weeks in.Shame we can't just pay it and get out earlier,but things like EHIC (done) and citizens rights (nearly done) have to be agreed.The light is now starting to shine at the end of the tunnel,freedom beckons.
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      I was comparing Mrs May's strategy of calling a second Brexit-based election just months after the last one with suggestions from elsewhere for a second referendum. I will always support the principle of a GE over a referendum though, except in exceptional circumstances. The fact that membership of the EU isn't one of them was emphasised for me yesterday by an old friend. He explained that he and his wife voted Leave because they thought they were being asked about immigration. As he said, he knows nothing about the subject but after reading an article in a complementary copy of the Mail they thought they'd cast their vote against. He regrets it.
      Adding to the impressive list of Remainers on this thread who have regaled us with delightful stories of how family or friends are regretting voting for Brexit. I liked the mention of The Mail for a bonus point in yours though. Meanwhile polls show little sign of Bregret but do show strong support for getting on with it.

      I hope you told your old friends that net immigration has been falling by a significant amount recently, mainly due to the impact of the referendum vote/Brexit.
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      Poorest will gain most under Brexit, says Labour report

      Britain's poorest households will be the biggest beneficiaries of Britain's departure from the European Union, according to a report published by a prominent Labour group.

      A paper co-authored by Labour Leave and a group of economists estimates that Brexit will bring a reduction in prices and immigration that will save the most deprived families £36 per week.

      The group also warns that a "soft Brexit" would "leave us worse off and in danger of remaining in the EU in all but name."

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...labour-report/
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      Impressed with DD on Marr this morning. £50 Billion story 'nonsense ...completely wrong' Uk position - 'People before process', Healthcare and social security provision agreed for UK citizens in Europe.

      Meanwhile, Labour have a 'united and clear position'

      Keir Starmer: Stay in single market and “a” customs union during transition period, then leave single market. Transition has to be as short as possible, “could” last just two years. Or it “could” go beyond 2022 election.

      Tom Watson: Could stay in single market and customs union permanently after the transition period is over.

      Caroline Flint: “Totally disagree” with Watson, cannot stay in single market and customs union permanently.


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