[Politics] Brexit

Yoda · Mar 29, 2017

Soulman said:
in" some UK industries “depend on migrants” - meaning inward migration from the EU will rise as well as fall"
Rise from tens of thousands, not rise from 330000 a year as it is now.

The only trouble with that figure is that about half of it is from outside the EU. People we HAVE control over. If our bloody government did something about that figure and people, we could've controlled it might not have been as bad as some people believe. Immigration was one of the biggest reasons people voted leave.

Lincoln Imp · Mar 29, 2017

Soulman said:
in" some UK industries “depend on migrants” - meaning inward migration from the EU will rise as well as fall"
Rise from tens of thousands, not rise from 330000 a year as it is now.

EU net migration is 165,000 or thereabouts. Where does your 330,000 come from?

Publius Ovidius · Mar 29, 2017

Kinky Gerbils said:
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EU has done everything to keep the British. From now on, only the interests of the remaining 440 million Europeans count for us. #BrexitDay

Absolutely....we have rejected Europe and want to go on our own....all this bullocks about remaining in a tariff free/ duty free trade zone without the EU rules is just fanciful in the extreme.

Still, we have our country back and I can eat my cornetto although I feel very guilty about it

Titanic · Mar 29, 2017

Presumably the £ is plummeting...

Publius Ovidius · Mar 29, 2017

Yoda said:
The only trouble with that figure is that about half of it is from outside the EU. People we HAVE control over. If our bloody government did something about that figure and people, we could've controlled it might not have been as bad as some people believe. Immigration was one of the biggest reasons people voted leave.

Exactly...bloody fuzzy wuzzies

Kinky Gerbil · Mar 29, 2017

I don't understand May mentioning twitter, as if tweeting by an MP is actually going to have an affect on the talks.

The excuses are already coming out.

pb21 · Mar 29, 2017

Mellotron said:
Which EU law is everyone most excited about not having to abide by anymore?

Definitely the one limiting the power of vacuum cleaners.

I can never get my house dust free with the shackles the EU places on my vacuum cleaner.

Not only have we got our country back, I will have my house back too.

The_Viper · Mar 29, 2017

Mellotron said:
Seriously?

One last time....

BREXIT

DIDNT

START

UNTIL

TODAY

It's going to take 10 years MINIMUM to see the full extent of the damage caused by this.

I mean you're obviously correct but that hasn't prevented 731 pages of BED WETTING on here and every single bad thing to happen to the UK since the referendum to blame Brexit somehow.

Simster · Mar 29, 2017

ROKERITE said:
What's your point? Love Europe - loathe The EU.

It's probably that we are moving away from Europe so that our own parliament can take control. You know, the one where 75% of seats are a forgone conclusion, the electoral boundaries are uneven and unfair, and where the upper chamber still contains unelected toff peers and the whole thing is overseen by an unelected head of state.

And you can't see the irony?

Two Professors · Mar 29, 2017

Hoperfully,the negotiators will have this on the door of their workroom so they can honour their own words!

Publius Ovidius · Mar 29, 2017

Do we still have to buy flymo lawn mowers anymore? I thought that was a EU edict that we all have to have hover mowers that don't cut very well!

Is there a good old English mower I should be buying?

beorhthelm · Mar 29, 2017

knocky1 said:
As the pound falls back against the dollar and there is the corresponding rise in the globally influenced FTSE,

pound risen against dollar since early trades, and against the euro too. #fickelcurrencytraders

Yoda · Mar 29, 2017

pb21 said:
Definitely the one limiting the power of vacuum cleaners.

I can never get my house dust free with the shackles the EU places on my vacuum cleaner.

Not only have we got our country back, I will have my house back too.

Get yourself a decent vacuum like I did a few months ago then. My floors are cleaner now than when I used the old higher wattage one we used to have.

ManOfSussex · Mar 29, 2017

Statement by the European Council* (Art. 50) on the UK notification

Today, the European Council received a letter from the British Prime Minister, Theresa May, notifying the United Kingdom's intention to leave the European Union. This notification follows the referendum of 23 June 2016 and starts the withdrawal process under Article 50 of the Treaty. We regret that the United Kingdom will leave the European Union, but we are ready for the process that we now will have to follow.
For the European Union, the first step will now be the adoption of guidelines for the negotiations by the European Council. These guidelines will set out the overall positions and principles in light of which the Union, represented by the European Commission, will negotiate with the United Kingdom.
In these negotiations the Union will act as one and preserve its interests. Our first priority will be to minimise the uncertainty caused by the decision of the United Kingdom for our citizens, businesses and Member States. Therefore, we will start by focusing on all key arrangements for an orderly withdrawal.
We will approach these talks constructively and strive to find an agreement. In the future, we hope to have the United Kingdom as a close partner.
President Tusk has convened the European Council on 29 April 2017.

http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_STATEMENT-17-793_en.htm?locale=en

Two Professors · Mar 29, 2017

Titanic said:
You can read the letter here:

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...to_European_Council_President_Donald_Tusk.pdf

Thanks for that-very comprehensive,with no room for misunderstandings.

Herr Tubthumper · Mar 29, 2017

ManOfSussex said:
In these negotiations the Union will act as one and preserve its interests.

A telling statement.

beorhthelm · Mar 29, 2017

Kinky Gerbils said:
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EU has done everything to keep the British. From now on, only the interests of the remaining 440 million Europeans count for us. #BrexitDay

Herr Weber must have forgotten the non-concessions that Cameron received in Feb 2016. they had a chance to offer alternative to ever closer integration, roll back from some areas, but declined. they didn't take the risk of us leaving seriously, so here we are.

on the positive, if the EU will genuinely work for the interest of the remaining 440m EU citizens, there will be a mutually beneficial agreement. we'll see in the next two years if they are interested in the citizens of the EU or the political project of the EU.

Thunder Bolt · Mar 29, 2017

Lincoln Imp said:
I'm not sure what you're getting at. The Commonwealth citizens may have been here in the period up to the 1970s (when you say we 'turned against them') but it was that very period which saw our growth languishing far behind mainland countries such as France and Germany. Growth really got going when we joined the union. Are you saying it was the Commonwealth citizens that held us back?

ManOfSussex said:
I interrupted the post by [MENTION=14365]Thunder Bolt[/MENTION] and reference to 'turned against' Commonwealth citizens as being to emergence of The NF, Enoch Powell et al from the late 1960's onwards.

Yes your interpretation was right. No the Commonwealth citizens didn't hold us back but helped us rebuild. Germany did build but was divided so only West Germany made any progress. Once the two Germanies were reunited, their growth took off. Unity will always benefit more than division.

Kinky Gerbil · Mar 29, 2017

No deal will lead to a lower "cooperation in the fight against crime and terrorism"

Again, who does that hurt more? us or the EU?

pb21 · Mar 29, 2017

Yoda said:
Get yourself a decent vacuum like I did a few months ago then. My floors are cleaner now than when I used the old higher wattage one we used to have.

I think I will wait thanks.

James Dyson (Great British Engineering Legend) will develop a post EU vacuum cleaner capable of cleaning like no other vacuum cleaner before, I suspect he has already got a prototype lined up. He wanted out of the EU so we can make our country great gain too. Admittedly this vacuum cleaner will be manufactured in Malaysia, after he moved the manufacturing away from the UK (he does want to make our country great gain too, hones), but so be it, we have got our country back.

Thank God we voted out, the children will thank us.

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