[Politics] Brexit

nicko31 said:

I was reading The Sun today whilst waiting to get my hair cut (I've never bought the Murdoch rag in my life but it was something to do). Anyway came to Kelvin Mac's page, a bit tongue cheek but many Brexiteers probably believe this.....

Post-Brexit Brit cars are promising
HAVING just bought an overpriced but incredibly basic BMW 4 series – for £41,000 you do get a door as standard – I am feeling pretty hostile towards the German car industry.
Brexit gives the UK a golden opportunity to start making our own cars once again.
If the idle, unionised French can produce excellent Renaults and Peugeots then anybody can.

Surely if EU manufacturing leaves the UK we can do a roaring trade in cars – it shouldn’t be difficult to beat lazy French and boring Germans at their game
Remember, these days the unions here only run the railways, so we won’t be producing any more of those disgraceful “Friday nighters” that destroyed our car makers in the Eighties.
If Toyota wants to bugger off from Derby I am sure there’s a clever designer/entrepreneur who can produce a great Britcar from the plant. There’s plenty of opportunity out there.

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nicko31 said:

I was reading The Sun today whilst waiting to get my hair cut (I've never bought the Murdoch rag in my life but it was something to do). Anyway came to Kelvin Mac's page, a bit tongue cheek but many Brexiteers probably believe this.....

Post-Brexit Brit cars are promising
HAVING just bought an overpriced but incredibly basic BMW 4 series – for £41,000 you do get a door as standard – I am feeling pretty hostile towards the German car industry.
Brexit gives the UK a golden opportunity to start making our own cars once again.
If the idle, unionised French can produce excellent Renaults and Peugeots then anybody can.

Surely if EU manufacturing leaves the UK we can do a roaring trade in cars – it shouldn’t be difficult to beat lazy French and boring Germans at their game
Remember, these days the unions here only run the railways, so we won’t be producing any more of those disgraceful “Friday nighters” that destroyed our car makers in the Eighties.
If Toyota wants to bugger off from Derby I am sure there’s a clever designer/entrepreneur who can produce a great Britcar from the plant. There’s plenty of opportunity out there.

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Two Professors said:

Well if UKIP are really bashing nasty immigrants,who can really blame them?See that hypocritical Chief Clown of the EU circus is getting confused:

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He expects everybody to have the right to stay now,when his lot are the ones obstructing it!And if they do stay,according to the geniuses on here,they won't be able to go home on holiday-no flights allowed!

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studio150 said:

If his lot are the ones obstructing it, why haven't the UK Government taken the first step and legislated for any EU nationals presently here have the right to stay?

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nicko31 said:

I was reading The Sun today whilst waiting to get my hair cut (I've never bought the Murdoch rag in my life but it was something to do). Anyway came to Kelvin Mac's page, a bit tongue cheek but many Brexiteers probably believe this.....

Post-Brexit Brit cars are promising
HAVING just bought an overpriced but incredibly basic BMW 4 series – for £41,000 you do get a door as standard – I am feeling pretty hostile towards the German car industry.
Brexit gives the UK a golden opportunity to start making our own cars once again.
If the idle, unionised French can produce excellent Renaults and Peugeots then anybody can.

Surely if EU manufacturing leaves the UK we can do a roaring trade in cars – it shouldn’t be difficult to beat lazy French and boring Germans at their game
Remember, these days the unions here only run the railways, so we won’t be producing any more of those disgraceful “Friday nighters” that destroyed our car makers in the Eighties.
If Toyota wants to bugger off from Derby I am sure there’s a clever designer/entrepreneur who can produce a great Britcar from the plant. There’s plenty of opportunity out there.

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beorhthelm said:

i wonder if he's heard of Land Rover Jaguar. given he over paid for his basic BMW by 10k and thinks the French produce excellent cars shows he clearly knows sweet fa about cars.

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daveinprague said:

Steering clear of Indian companies?

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studio150 said:

If his lot are the ones obstructing it, why haven't the UK Government taken the first step and legislated for any EU nationals presently here have the right to stay?

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GT49er said:

Sorry, but that really is a stupid question, and one which has been answered many times already, even if the answer doesn't suit you.

We are happy for the existing EU nationals working here to stay, and welcome - but we also have a duty to our expats. If we just say, all the EU people can stay, that leaves an open goal for the EU, if they want to get nasty, to repatriate all our citizens living abroad (although Spain for one would not be keen on this), so unless the EU comes out and says, fair enough, the status quo will stand for all EU people in the UK and all UK citizens in the EU (which they wouldn't) we cannot unilaterally surrender our side of the bargaining. Simples. But sadly, apparently too difficult for some........................

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studio150 said:

So its not the EU blocking it all as you can just as easily turn it around and say that the EU are not prepared to say UK citizens can stay as they have a duty towards EU nationals in the UK but the UK Government won't legislate on the issue currently and if they guarantee UK citizens can stay the UK will deport EU nationals to please leave voters.

So it's really down to Mrs May playing hard ball.

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daveinprague said:

Everybody else's fault was the Brexit plan?

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JC Footy Genius said:

A bit Yoda-ish. You mean to say there is a Brexit plan?

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studio150 said:

So its not the EU blocking it all as you can just as easily turn it around and say that the EU are not prepared to say UK citizens can stay as they have a duty towards EU nationals in the UK but the UK Government won't legislate on the issue currently and if they guarantee UK citizens can stay the UK will deport EU nationals to please leave voters.

So it's really down to Mrs May playing hard ball.

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GT49er said:

Sorry, but that really is a stupid question, and one which has been answered many times already, even if the answer doesn't suit you.

We are happy for the existing EU nationals working here to stay, and welcome - but we also have a duty to our expats. If we just say, all the EU people can stay, that leaves an open goal for the EU, if they want to get nasty, to repatriate all our citizens living abroad (although Spain for one would not be keen on this), so unless the EU comes out and says, fair enough, the status quo will stand for all EU people in the UK and all UK citizens in the EU (which they wouldn't) we cannot unilaterally surrender our side of the bargaining. Simples. But sadly, apparently too difficult for some........................

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GT49er said:

Sigh. You really don't understand 'negotiation', do you? I give up (as far as you're concerned).

Go your own way if it makes you happy.

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Soulman said:

Hard work isn't it.

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portslade seagull said:

I think some want us to go belly up and just lay there. Thank God they are not union negotiators. Workers rights would have been given away.

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GT49er said:

Sigh. You really don't understand 'negotiation', do you? I give up (as far as you're concerned).

Go your own way if it makes you happy.

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