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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob'n'weave View Post
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    Agreed. Seen lots of good managers lose pubs because of this approach. The big monopolies (Scottish Newcastle/Whitbread etc) got broken up years ago only to be replaced by lots of little Pubcos doing the same thing. I like the way that the "Bev" has bounced back with the community based approach. More please.
    Enterprise Inns can take a lot of blame as well.

    It's a real shame to see pubs closed & boarded up. Two where I live have closed in the past six months. One's becoming flats & apparently the other one has been sold to a micro brewery ....

    IMO - drinking habits have also changed in the past 15 years. People are encouraged to drink less & let's face it you don't go to a pub for a cheeky lime & soda.

    It's a real shame as pubs are proper communities. I've found jobs, places to live, good friends all thanks to a pub I started going into as a teenager. Which ironically is now a soulless JD Wetherspoon's.

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      Rates revaluations will lead to a load more closing too. Our pub in London, which is small, but central is facing a doubling in rates bill, from 1400 to 2800 per month once the tapered relief runs out. You can see how the much trumpeted 1000 annual rebate for pubs means in this context, won't even cover one months increase. Need to take an extra 700 a week just to cover the increase
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      Rates revaluations will lead to a load more closing too. Our pub in London, which is small, but central is facing a doubling in rates bill, from 1400 to 2800 per month once the tapered relief runs out. You can see how the much trumpeted 1000 annual rebate for pubs means in this context, won't even cover one months increase. Need to take an extra 700 a week just to cover the increase
      BT Sport & Sky Sports base their prices on rateable value so if pubs/bars have had an increase then you're f*cked on that level as well.


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      Enterprise Inns can take a lot of blame as well.

      It's a real shame to see pubs closed & boarded up. Two where I live have closed in the past six months. One's becoming flats & apparently the other one has been sold to a micro brewery ....

      IMO - drinking habits have also changed in the past 15 years. People are encouraged to drink less & let's face it you don't go to a pub for a cheeky lime & soda.

      It's a real shame as pubs are proper communities. I've found jobs, places to live, good friends all thanks to a pub I started going into as a teenager. Which ironically is now a soulless JD Wetherspoon's.
      Enterprise are a good example. There are a few smaller outfits with under 20 pubs that are not too bad, but as the numbers get larger, the focus tends to shift to bottom line and your nice local becomes an "asset", and the customers/community slip further down the food chain. I miss the London Unity which was a nice place to have a decent pint and a chat, used to make a nice change from the Horse and Groom up the road which is still open, again, just.
      Have you seen the Muppet Show........
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      Was a bit of a dive in there tbh

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      BT Sport & Sky Sports base their prices on rateable value so if pubs/bars have had an increase then you're f*cked on that level as well.


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      Both been ditched. Sky went up from 300 a month to 1200 in about 8 years.

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      The planning permission has been applied for by one of the owners of Coldean Pharmacy. If the welcoming atmosphere and customer service is anything like that of the chemist, it will be a wonderful venue. Exciting stuff!
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      Why not try The Bevy in Hillside, Moulsecoomb? Friendly, community pub with free bus to The Amex on Saturday match days.
      Simmo lives near that ...his Guinness consumption alone would keep a pub running
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      The planning permission has been applied for by one of the owners of Coldean Pharmacy. If the welcoming atmosphere and customer service is anything like that of the chemist, it will be a wonderful venue. Exciting stuff!
      It's the pharmacist's brother apparently. The pharmacy and local shop are wonderfully run, a superb example of what local shops should be. I'm rather looking forward to the new-look Hiker's
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      I am not a great lover of micro brewers but if it keeps a pub as a pub and stops it becoming a shop I am all in favour.

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