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    No Blairite member of Labour will be acceptable as leader, Corbyn will stand down when the right candidate is there who can take the party forward with a mandate to be an effective opposition and then an effective government.

    Benn, Umuna, Reeves, Kendall and all the other New Labour MP's must accept that party is finished and need to move on and either support the mandate the membership gives them or leave the party.

    I wouldn't be surprised if Andy Burnham tried again, a lot more acceptable to the general public after the Hillsborough inquest.
    Burnham will go for mayor of Manchester. He will unlikely stand a third time. Yvette cooper performed well in the referendum I thought and isn't it time the labour party had a female leader?
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      The likes of you, Corbyn, Skinner will just carry on ****ing this country in the fantasy belief of a socialist utopia and end of capitalism. You don't care that the reality of this stance will lead to more and more right wing governments, as long as you can hold your entrenched beliefs.

      The rest of us who believe in moderate social responsibility and left of centre politics NEED a Labour Party that can BEAT the Tories, not just sit in opposition sneering at them. This kind of position took us through 18years of Tory rule through the '80s and unrepairable damage, and the likes of Corbyn ideology will do the same again.

      Post EU UK will be shaped by the right. If we want it to be shaped by the LEFT, the Labour Party has to elect a leader that can not only unite the Labour vote, but can bring other parties with them, coalition if needed to shape the future, not just wave their papers on opposition benches.
      Very much so. And I'd go a bit further too.

      I thought it was interesting to hear Boris Johnson roundly boo-ed by those waiting for him to leave his house this morning. There will be a considerable number of those moderately right of centre who will be appalled at what Johnson represents, whether he goes on to lead the Conservative Party or not. A strong Labour leader should be able to appeal and communicate to these people. There could be a lot of low-hanging fruit for the Labour party, should they have a leader worthy of the name.
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      No party has ever won an election without appealing to the centre ground (wherever it is at that time). What corbyn has done is preach to the choir but not engaged the centre ground. He may not have been a fan of the EU but he certainly can't be any more enamoured with the alternative
      That was always Michael Foot's great weakness. He'd go to a Labour rally, speak to the crowd, get massive cheers and leave with the mistaken belief the country was with him!
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      Very much so. And I'd go a bit further too.

      I thought it was interesting to hear Boris Johnson roundly boo-ed by those waiting for him to leave his house this morning. There will be a considerable number of those moderately right of centre who will be appalled at what Johnson represents, whether he goes on to lead the Conservative Party or not. A strong Labour leader should be able to appeal and communicate to these people. There could be a lot of low-hanging fruit for the Labour party, should they have a leader worthy of the name.
      Sorry but my old party are in a mess. They are all aligned as one largely in terms of members but the parliamentary party who are actually closer to the public majority in viewpoint (except for this referendum) are on a different plane

      They are two leaders from power. The next one will be seen as undoing corbyn's work (like kinnock was to foot/callaghan /Wilson) and the one that follows may be seen as the electable one (john Smith had a 16point lead over major when he died)
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      I thought it was interesting to hear Boris Johnson roundly boo-ed by those waiting for him to leave his house this morning.
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      I'm not a Labour party supporter, but this country desperately needs a strong, reasserted Labour party and quickly.
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      Maybe Chuka is a poor alternative, said in the heat of the moment. But for me, Labour are a total disaster with Corbyn running them. They need to re-take the centre ground, and fast.
      You were right the first time. Chuka is the right man for the job
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      No Blairite member of Labour will be acceptable as leader, Corbyn will stand down when the right candidate is there who can take the party forward with a mandate to be an effective opposition and then an effective government.

      Benn, Umuna, Reeves, Kendall and all the other New Labour MP's must accept that party is finished and need to move on and either support the mandate the membership gives them or leave the party.

      I wouldn't be surprised if Andy Burnham tried again, a lot more acceptable to the general public after the Hillsborough inquest.
      Benn, Umana, etc don't have much of a career ahead of them as members of an unelectable party - better to take a deep breath, form a grand alliance with the pro-EU centrist wing of the Conservative Party (who also won't have much of a career ahead of them when the Fat Philanderer takes over), force a general election and fight it on a Stop the Negotiations ticket. Wait a few months for the economic disasters of 23 June to start biting and, who knows.
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      Vote of no confidence now called on Corbyn. Superb news.
      Perhaps Margaret Hodge has been reading NSC's finest?
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      You were right the first time. Chuka is the right man for the job
      Let's see who actually applies. The biggest priority is surely a person who can appeal to the centre ground, which of course means standing up to the left-wing bullies who see this blindingly obvious situation as some sort of sell-out. That's why I suggested Ummuna. Hilary Benn is also an excellent shout though, as is Andy Burnham if you're looking for someone to straddle the wings of the party, but I think both risk missing the low hanging fruit Bozza refers to.
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