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    always thought that JC was paving the way for a younger thrusting leader........................ ...but who?
    Nah, paving the way for a Labour decimation at the next election followed by another term of Tory's doing whatever they want unopposed while Labour rebuilds itself (or tears itself into oblivion). Corbyn as leader isn't going to make Labour electable ... quite the opposite, I think: while he's enjoyed strong support within Labour membership ranks, I don't believe he enjoys anywhere near the same support in the wider electorate of non-members. And, unfortunately, Corbyn seems more interested in hanging on to the leadership at all costs (because democracy) rather than doing what would be best for the party as a whole (including the members who want to see a Labour government sometime soon) and voluntarily vacating so someone more electable can take over.

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      Nah, paving the way for a Labour decimation at the next election followed by another term of Tory's doing whatever they want unopposed while Labour rebuilds itself (or tears itself into oblivion). Corbyn as leader isn't going to make Labour electable ... quite the opposite, I think: while he's enjoyed strong support within Labour membership ranks, I don't believe he enjoys anywhere near the same support in the wider electorate of non-members. And, unfortunately, Corbyn seems more interested in hanging on to the leadership at all costs (because democracy) rather than doing what would be best for the party as a whole (including the members who want to see a Labour government sometime soon) and voluntarily vacating so someone more electable can take over.
      Having gained power within the Labour party beyond their wildest dreams and as a result of the miscalculations and mistakes by the centre, the left will never willingly relinquish power. Corbyn is a figurehead leader, the real drive and power lies with the puppeteers - people like McDonnell, McCluskey and Lansman. The Labour party membership which keeps the left in power now consists, in the main, of students, doctrinaire idealists and ageing lefties. The party has to split and reform into a centerist party and a left wing rump. It's the only way forward.
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      More chaos for Corbyn...

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      Tom Watson
      Keir Starmer
      Dan Jarvis
      Rebecca Long-Bailey
      Clive Lewes
      Lisa Nandy
      Hilary Benn

      Out of that lot, the only person who I think the current membership would get behind is Clive Lewes, I think Keir Starmer has performed better - both completely inexperienced at the moment.
      I'd make a BETTER leader than any of that lot
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      I'd make a BETTER leader than any of that lot
      Indeed you would Enrest.

      A stupid party needs an equally stupid leader.
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      Indeed you would Enrest.

      A stupid party needs an equally stupid leader.
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      Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

      Oh my word how funny.
      It was INCREDIBLY funny, it must be Jim Davidson
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      Latest Guardian/ICM poll (17-19 Feb)

      18 point lead for the Tories. The highest ever Tory lead in an ICM/Guardian poll. The biggest Tory lead for any polling organisation since June 2008. And 4% more than at any time under Miliband.

      CON: 44% (+2)
      LAB: 26% (-1)
      UKIP: 13% (+1)
      LDEM: 8% (-2)
      GRN: 4% (-)
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      Latest Guardian/ICM poll (17-19 Feb)

      18 point lead for the Tories. The highest ever Tory lead in an ICM/Guardian poll. The biggest Tory lead for any polling organisation since June 2008. And 4% more than at any time under Miliband.

      CON: 44% (+2)
      LAB: 26% (-1)
      UKIP: 13% (+1)
      LDEM: 8% (-2)
      GRN: 4% (-)
      Can't believe 26% still want to vote for labour
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      Latest Guardian/ICM poll (17-19 Feb)

      18 point lead for the Tories. The highest ever Tory lead in an ICM/Guardian poll. The biggest Tory lead for any polling organisation since June 2008. And 4% more than at any time under Miliband.

      CON: 44% (+2)
      LAB: 26% (-1)
      UKIP: 13% (+1)
      LDEM: 8% (-2)
      GRN: 4% (-)
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