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The Jeremy Corbyn thread



Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,093
Surrey
The country doesn't need a gutless, spineless inert clown leading the Labour party.

You're a disgrace. F**k off. Get Chuka in.
 

Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
The country doesn't need a gutless, spineless inert clown leading the Labour party.

You're a disgrace. F**k off. Get Chuka in.

He's just carrying on a proud tradition-Foot,Kinnock,Brown etc
 

Stat Brother

Well-known member
NSC Licker Extraordinaire
Jul 11, 2003
73,270
West west west Sussex
Alan Johnson.
 

chimneys

Well-known member
Jun 11, 2007
3,582
I'm not a traditional labour supporter, but my god do we need an effective opposition right now.

Get the right Miliband back over here before the Tory right really gets going.

There is now a vast swathe of centre ground for someone to make hay with!
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,093
Surrey
Last thing the Labour Party need is another METROPOLITAN elite in charge especially one who already BOTTLED out of standing for the leaders job

No, the last thing the Labour party need is an un-electable clown who sits on his hands when his country needs him.

You don't seem to appreciate that this is a time when the Tories have proved so untrustworthy, yet Labour still have NO chance of being elected. You will need to compromise on your beliefs if you want to see anything other than a Tory or a part-Tory government.
 
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Titanic

Super Moderator
Helpful Moderator
Jul 5, 2003
38,975
West Sussex
Seeing as their traditional heartlands (apart from Scotland which has abandoned them altogether) voted to leave... perhaps Labour should have a BRExiteer as their new leader?
 


Bold Seagull

strong and stable with me, or...
Mar 18, 2010
29,716
Hove
Last thing the Labour Party need is another METROPOLITAN elite in charge especially one who already BOTTLED out of standing for the leaders job

The likes of you, Corbyn, Skinner will just carry on ****ing this country in the fantasy belief of a socialist utopia and end of capitalism. You don't care that the reality of this stance will lead to more and more right wing governments, as long as you can hold your entrenched beliefs.

The rest of us who believe in moderate social responsibility and left of centre politics NEED a Labour Party that can BEAT the Tories, not just sit in opposition sneering at them. This kind of position took us through 18years of Tory rule through the '80s and unrepairable damage, and the likes of Corbyn ideology will do the same again.

Post EU UK will be shaped by the right. If we want it to be shaped by the LEFT, the Labour Party has to elect a leader that can not only unite the Labour vote, but can bring other parties with them, coalition if needed to shape the future, not just wave their papers on opposition benches.
 

jonny.rainbow

Well-known member
Oct 29, 2005
6,565
The country doesn't need a gutless, spineless inert clown leading the Labour party.

You're a disgrace. F**k off. Get Chuka in.

What? The gutless, spineless, inert clown who withdrew from the last leadership contest because of skeletons in his closet?
 


Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
31,320
Uffern
Last thing the Labour Party need is another METROPOLITAN elite in charge especially one who already BOTTLED out of standing for the leaders job

This. The party had an election only eight months ago, the winner had one of the biggest majorities a party leader has ever got, rejecting firmly the Oxbridge-educated metropolitan elitists. Why would it be any different this time?

If the no confidence motion is passed, all Corbyn should do is say that he was elected by the members and they're the ones who can kick him out - the PLP has no authority in this
 

ROSM

Well-known member
Dec 26, 2005
6,161
Just far enough away from LDC
He knew the referendum was coming when he stood for Labour leader. Why then did he seem to look taken by surprise when it happened and not knowing what his and the party strategy should be.

We currently have the leaders of our two main parties who dont have a strategic bone in their body and therefore lurch from one tactical step to another
 


Jim D

Well-known member
Jul 23, 2003
5,249
Worthing
Tim Farron was quite scathing about the lack of commitment from Corbyn in the remain campaign earlier. OK he's the leader of a small party that could have its annual conference in a phonebox but I very much doubt he's alone in that view.
 

Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
31,320
Uffern
We currently have the leaders of our two main parties who dont have a strategic bone in their body and therefore lurch from one tactical step to another

Oh, Corbyn does. His strategy is to push through enough changes so that the membership has more say and MPs have less. I'm convinced that once he's effected that change, he'll resign.

He's certainly not going to have any strategy for the EU as he decidedly lukewarm about it
 

Pavilionaire

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
30,499
The country doesn't need a gutless, spineless inert clown leading the Labour party.

You're a disgrace. F**k off. Get Chuka in.

It was Chuka's time last year and I was disappointed not only that withdrew from the race but that he couldn't see if he didn't stand Labour might be irreversibly damaged.

If Sturgeon steams in with Independence Referendum 2 before we leave the EU then Scotland could be out of the UK and Labour will lose the chance to win back those Scottish seats for Westminster. Without them it is hard to see them winning a majority in England and Wales any time soon.
 

Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,093
Surrey
What? The gutless, spineless, inert clown who withdrew from the last leadership contest because of skeletons in his closet?

It was Chuka's time last year and I was disappointed not only that withdrew from the race but that he couldn't see if he didn't stand Labour might be irreversibly damaged.

If Sturgeon steams in with Independence Referendum 2 before we leave the EU then Scotland could be out of the UK and Labour will lose the chance to win back those Scottish seats for Westminster. Without them it is hard to see them winning a majority in England and Wales any time soon.

Maybe Chuka is a poor alternative, said in the heat of the moment. But for me, Labour are a total disaster with Corbyn running them. They need to re-take the centre ground, and fast.
 


Ernest

Stupid IDIOT
Nov 8, 2003
42,739
LOONEY BIN
No Blairite member of Labour will be acceptable as leader, Corbyn will stand down when the right candidate is there who can take the party forward with a mandate to be an effective opposition and then an effective government.

Benn, Umuna, Reeves, Kendall and all the other New Labour MP's must accept that party is finished and need to move on and either support the mandate the membership gives them or leave the party.

I wouldn't be surprised if Andy Burnham tried again, a lot more acceptable to the general public after the Hillsborough inquest.
 

ROSM

Well-known member
Dec 26, 2005
6,161
Just far enough away from LDC
No party has ever won an election without appealing to the centre ground (wherever it is at that time). What corbyn has done is preach to the choir but not engaged the centre ground. He may not have been a fan of the EU but he certainly can't be any more enamoured with the alternative
 

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