Diego Napier
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- Mar 27, 2010
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Good Grief! She makes Boris look credible.
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The two Tory candidates for next MP
- Thread starter Machiavelli
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Good Grief! She makes Boris look credible.
Behind Enemy Lines
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It will be Boris. The others just haven't got the same cut through with electorate that he has plus he's loved by the Tory grassroot. If Corbyn is still leader by then, if i was Boris, I'd call a quick general election knowing I can beat him. God it's depressing.
maltaseagull
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I think I would vote for Corbyn ahead of Boris and that's really saying something !
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carteater
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Do it democratically. Like the leave campaign in the referendum said, we don't want to be lead by unelected politicians. Call an election.
Behind Enemy Lines
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No chance.
50s about him still available.
Proof positive that in either or both elections the electorate didn't have a clue what they were voting for.
I guess that's hardly surprising when watching the shameful way both sides have handled this campaign.
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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My personal view is that the seeds were sown when the Lib Dems were forced into a U-turn on tuition fees by an overly aggressive and inexperienced Tory Party in a state of euphoria after 13 years in the political wilderness.
They made a useful contribution to a decent coalition government and while they were around the EU Referendum was not on the table. Yet they were hung out to dry and were a lame duck party come the 2015 election. With them out of the way Cameron pledged to hold the Referendum but the increased level of austerity under the Tories since the end of the coalition - particularly for those on benefits - has done for them and the country.
Something strange is going on politically. The electorate's reaction to the tuition fees U-turn - a decision taken when all sorts of compromises were having to be taken when the economy was deep in the sh1t - was a punishment far exceeding the crime, surely not worth annihilating a political party over?
Now the Labour Party seems completely unelectable with the Labour heartlands backing Brexit and mortally wounding Corbyn in the process.
And the latest is Tory voters voting against the very people they elected a year ago and plunging the party into chaos.
I don't think voters have actually forgiven the bankers or the MPs over expenses, but the question is at what point will the "F*ck the Establishment" vote end and sensible party politics resume?
Brilliant post, IMO.
I think you're probably right.
But as with America and The Donald, rational non-divisive politics will only be able to return after a period of 'what the f**k have we done'.
I think it will be May v Gove/Boris. If May is against Boris she would probably win if it's Gove I would guess he would win. I think whoever is PM negotiating our Brexit needs to be someone who really believes in the course we have taken which means Gove .... sorry.
Do you realise the devastation he created in education?
He had two parties to look out for in his tenure as Education Secretary, the pupils and the teachers.
He didn't give a sh for either of them, all he cared about were budget cuts.
You want him to be PM?
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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We've had general global peace now for 71 years - which is fairly unprecedented in recent millennia - and you start to think the people are taking it for granted, that peace is institutionalised and politics is merely a sideshow. Yet we have already have Putin invading other countries and within the space of 6 months we'll have Brexit, Boris and - possibly - Trump. Wake up people!
Gotta wonder why I'm bothering with the usual anxieties about living day to day in Stat World, when the rest of the planet is playing fast and loose with the future.
Kalimantan Gull
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Well written. This result is part an anti-immigration, 'take our country back' vote from the usual tory heartlands, which we all accepted would happen, but its been bolstered by this anti-establishment, anti-capitalist vote from the usual labour heartlands, to push it to victory. The sad part for the latter group is that the party now tasked with putting this result into action is the right of the Tory party.
The biggest amazement for me is how these right-wing Tories convinced working-class Labour voters to vote to leave a left-of-central body and hand more power to Boris, Gove, IDS and so on. They used Farage and UKIP perfectly to stoke up primal fears and it worked a treat for them.
JC Footy Genius
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- Jun 9, 2015
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That's rather a partial opinion. Any Tory minister making any changes to any public services is usually vilified (sometimes deserved) within months of taking charge.
Some Labour one's too.
He seems to be enacting a reforming liberal agenda re prisons in his role as Justice Secretary so perhaps he isn't as one dimensional as you suggest.
May didn't have the courage of her convictions and played safe sticking with remain, Boris will probably be blocked by Loyalist Remain Tory Mp's.Which leaves Gove, as a long time supporter of Brexit he is likely to be more committed in delivering what the UK population have voted for. Therefore he gets my vote(if I had one).
joeinbrighton
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It will be from a pool of 3: Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and Theresa May.