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Hillsborough verdict: Fans unlawfully killed



aolstudios

Well-known member
Nov 30, 2011
4,496
brighton
The irony was that Duckenfield had been in the witness box for seven days and hadnt changed his tory. It was only on the last day when questioned by the council for the police federation who maybe were ensuring that the people they represented didn't carry the can, that he cracked and owned up. Apparently according to the Liverpool echo journo Duckenfields own qc at that point sat shaking his head.

Beggs who was that qc apparently was still peddling these lies right up to the end of the inquest

Anyone remember someone on this board posting (with personal anecdotes, backed up by some sources) that Beggs was deeply involved a few years ago in Hunt Sabbing, though viewed with some suspicion?
 




Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Anyone remember someone on this board posting (with personal anecdotes, backed up by some sources) that Beggs was deeply involved a few years ago in Hunt Sabbing, though viewed with some suspicion?

Yes, wasn't it a Reading fan or similar?
 










The Fifth Column

Retired ex-cop
Nov 30, 2010
4,015
Escaped from Corruption
It leaves a very sour taste in the mouth watching Theresa May spouting off in the commons taking the moral high ground. I wonder when she will apologise for the Tory government that was complicit in the cover up and the fact the enquiry was 27 years too late! Snide poison mouthed bitch.
 


glasfryn

cleaning up cat sick
Nov 29, 2005
20,261
somewhere in Eastbourne
It leaves a very sour taste in the mouth watching Theresa May spouting off in the commons taking the moral high ground. I wonder when she will apologise for the Tory government that was complicit in the cover up and the fact the enquiry was 27 years too late! Snide poison mouthed bitch.

who might be our next PM the way things are going?
who would vote it the two front runners now?
 






Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Breaking news

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http://www.theguardian.com/football...r-hillsborough-verdict?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

David Crompton has been suspended as chief constable of South Yorkshire police, in the fallout from the Hillsborough inquest unlawful killing verdicts.

Crompton’s force had been criticised for its conduct during the inquest which delivered a damning verdict on Tuesday.

Dr Alan Billings, the police and crime commissioner for South Yorkshire, has the power to take such a decision but his spokesperson would make no further comment.

The news came hours after Andy Burnham, the shadow home secretary, had described Crompton’s position as “untenable”. Burnham’s comments were made in the House of Commons as MPs discussed the fallout from Tuesday’s inquest verdicts about the 1989 disaster.
South Yorkshire’s police and crime commissioner Dr Alan Billings said he
had been left with no choice other than to suspend Crompton with immediate effect following the run-up to and delivery of the Hillsborough verdicts.

Billings said he acted “based on the erosion of public trust and confidence”, adding “I suspended him with immediate effect and he left the building.”

He said he acted because of the “difference of perception” between the chief constable and Hillsborough families about questions the force’s lawyers had raised about the conduct of fans on the day of the tragedy in 1989.

Billings said the row was “proving an obstacle to our going forward” and came despite Crompton being due to retire in November.

The announcement of the suspension came barely four hours after concerns were raised in the Commons about the force’s conduct at the inquest.
 


sir albion

New member
Jan 6, 2007
13,055
SWINDON
It might have "looked like" to you however:



So your blame is completely unfounded.
Way to many people in there that shouldn't have been in there....must have been loads of ticketless fans that were let in as well.
Anyone can see it was ridiculously over populated,but the important thing is justice has prevailed for the family as wether it was over populated or not the police let them in.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Way to many people in there that shouldn't have been in there....must have been loads of ticketless fans that were let in as well.
Anyone can see it was ridiculously over populated,but the important thing is justice has prevailed for the family as wether it was over populated or not the police let them in.

The police directed the fans (who all had tickets - that has been proved in court) to the two central pens, down the tunnel. The two side pens were nearly empty.
 




sir albion

New member
Jan 6, 2007
13,055
SWINDON
The police directed the fans (who all had tickets - that has been proved in court) to the two central pens, down the tunnel. The two side pens were nearly empty.
Fair enough then as I recall seeing thousands behind a big gate on the road and some climbing over the gate.

Anyway it's done now and let's hope they punish the right people :)
 


Aug 11, 2003
2,728
The Open Market
Way to many people in there that shouldn't have been in there....must have been loads of ticketless fans that were let in as well.
Anyone can see it was ridiculously over populated,but the important thing is justice has prevailed for the family as wether it was over populated or not the police let them in.

Can you provide unambiguous, peer-tested evidence for that? Evidence that the Taylor Inquiry and the Inquest both failed to find?
 








Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Ticketless fans going to massive matches in the 80's and 90's never happened?
How do you prove it?
I'll leave it at their wasn't ticketless fans :)

As I said, the inquest and Taylor Report proved there weren't any ticketless fans. I've said this to you several times before today.
 


ROSM

Well-known member
Dec 26, 2005
6,211
Just far enough away from LDC
The fact is that assessment of crowds outside the ground and those in the stadium indicate that the numbers were consistent with the number of tickets sold. If there were people without tickets then they weren't at the ground and therefore played no part in the incident
 


ewe2

Well-known member
Mar 14, 2008
2,671
Hailsham area
The 96 were unlawfully killed,by a totally incompetent policing system,outdated ground safety and lack of medical cover for such an event. For me , if there are to be prosecutions,then its the people that lied and tried to cover up are the most culpable .
 






Leekbrookgull

Well-known member
Jul 14, 2005
16,252
Leek


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