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    Is 54 / 46 solidarity?
    No it's a coin toss. But it is democracy and whether it was 50.1% against 49.9% we've got to accept the vote.

    On that....all of you on the left who will no doubt be delighted about the result please do bare that in mind next time you have a Brexit/Anti Trump tirade. Democracy works both ways regardless if your side is successful or not.

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      Aslef drivers vote against the deal so industrial action will recommence
      Surely not much support for Strikes when less than 40% have voted against deal
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      And a 72% turnout.
      So less than 40% voted to reject deal...pretty sure the remaining 28% don`t want to strike .
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      No it's a coin toss. But it is democracy and whether it was 50.1% against 49.9% we've got to accept the vote.

      On that....all of you on the left who will no doubt be delighted about the result please do bare that in mind next time you have a Brexit/Anti Trump tirade. Democracy works both ways regardless if your side is successful or not.
      But this vote wasn't to go back on strike, it was to accept (or not) the offer on the table. The result does not appear strong enough to automatically trigger a resumption of strikes, in my view.
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      But this vote wasn't to go back on strike, it was to accept (or not) the offer on the table. The result does not appear strong enough to automatically trigger a resumption of strikes, in my view.
      Hope for Commuters sake you are right....However lets wait and see what some of the more militant among NSC have to say !!
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      But this vote wasn't to go back on strike, it was to accept (or not) the offer on the table. The result does not appear strong enough to automatically trigger a resumption of strikes, in my view.
      Deal rejected the mandate for industrial action is still there. Will be interesting if they now call another strike after the 7 day notice period
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      and once again where is Grayling ?
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      But this vote wasn't to go back on strike, it was to accept (or not) the offer on the table. The result does not appear strong enough to automatically trigger a resumption of strikes, in my view.
      I don't think they ever stopped, underlined, emboldened the strikes did they? Just said they'd have a break whilst they consulted their members (something the RMT should have done when the 2k "bribe" was on the table). Their members have spoken and whilst its disappointing we've got to accept it.

      As I've said before on this thread the strikes are what they are. If they re-instate the overtime ban then that is more of a kick in the balls for me personally.
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      and once again where is Grayling ?
      I'm puzzled by his lack of input. The cynic in me says that his plan was to try and get Southern to break one of the unions but if it all went wrong to step in, strip the franchise and keep the status quo (for the time being). However that assumes a Machiavellian intellect that appears beyond him; I think he's just a bumbling fool completely out of his depth.
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      Would it not have been cheaper and quicker by now if Southern had just invested in modern self driving stock?

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