Amazing stat that. Baldock runs defences ragged, opening up the game for others - most starkly obvious recently against QPR. Love the bloke.
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Sam Baldock - sick note
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Amazing stat that. Baldock runs defences ragged, opening up the game for others - most starkly obvious recently against QPR. Love the bloke.
Saturn
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- Feb 11, 2016
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Surely those that think otherwise aren't claiming the much higher win percentage with SB in the team is pure coincidence? He does so much running for the team which doesn't appear to have much impact on the surface but as the games wear on, players tire of this and make mistakes. Mistakes which he has caused them to make with his work ethic.
brightn'ove
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A good example of a similar player in the premier league is Okazaki, he doesn't score many goals, but his continuous pressure and running yesterday against swansea created a lot of space for Leicester to play in and he has done this for months, which is why Ranieri starts him every game. Of course if he played for us he would be branded 'shit' for not scoring enough goals.
Diego Napier
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GingerBeerMan
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Correlation doesn't prove causation. Baldock missed the period where most of our best players were injured. When he plays we also have our other strong players in the team - not to mention the fact he missed that period of draw and losses and only returned once Knockaet and Rosenior were playing.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
It's called the Heskey effect or for a more Albion related analogy, would Wardy have scored so many without Spider ?
Phat Baz 68
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Two idiots for the season prize of oooo look at me posts !!
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Ninja Elephant
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- Feb 16, 2009
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Hip hip hooray, he's able to JUST ABOUT sort his feet out a yard out to scuff one home past an already relegated team. Everyone is wrong about him being impotent in front of goal and offering nothing that no other half-reasonable striker would offer. We should continue to accept his poor output because he's lucky enough that the team performs well DESPITE him.
How many goals would Nicky Forster have scored in this team? There was a proper striker.
Hip hip hooray, he's able to JUST ABOUT sort his feet out a yard out to scuff one home past an already relegated team. Everyone is wrong about him being impotent in front of goal and offering nothing that no other half-reasonable striker would offer. We should continue to accept his poor output because he's lucky enough that the team performs well DESPITE him.
How many goals would Nicky Forster have scored in this team? There was a proper striker.
Making yourself look a bit of a thicko, tbh.
warmleyseagull
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Fair point that there is a large element of coincidence and I would agree that he is far from THE difference but surely the stat means at the very least the brickbats hurled at him on this thread are out of order.
Well CH must think he is OK because he keeps picking him.
Hip hip hooray, he's able to JUST ABOUT sort his feet out a yard out to scuff one home past an already relegated team. Everyone is wrong about him being impotent in front of goal and offering nothing that no other half-reasonable striker would offer. We should continue to accept his poor output because he's lucky enough that the team performs well DESPITE him.
How many goals would Nicky Forster have scored in this team? There was a proper striker.
Given this guy knows his onions as his match reports show, and I happen to know he has spent 3 quarters of Baldock's time here really not rating him that highly, I'd say you're best off listening to him. Baldock is winning over his doubters.
Nobody is suggesting he couldn't be a better finisher, but he brings so much to this team.
Wardy's twin
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Tomer has scored 17 goals and is 4th top scorer....
Ninja Elephant
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- Feb 16, 2009
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Not at all, it's a game of opinions.
It's a shame Wilson picked up that knock against QPR, otherwise he might well have kept his place in the team.
That's a fair opinion, but Baldock won't win me over by barely taking a very straight forward chance and then spurning many others. In this team, I honestly believe that I would have scored more goals than he has. And his goal record, for a £2million striker, is laughable. His contribution to the team is minimal, despite his running around, and I honestly don't think he offers anything that a Simon Cox, Dexter Blackstock, Matt Derybshire or even Dean Bowditch wouldn't have offered. He is a bottom end Championship player all round, and he is very fortunate to be playing so regularly in such a strong team. I don't expect people to agree, whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.
Given that Albion has scored more goals in total than any other team in the championship this season, I'm pretty happy with the overall approach to signing, team selection and tactics. Indeed the fact that we are not over-reliant on one or two key strikers to bang in the goals, with all the risks that entails if one or both of them gets injured, has been a major contribution to the team's overall resilience this season. I think, therefore, that the emphasis on Baldock's goal total misses the point not least because, as a few other posters have pointed out on here, when he's played he's contributed a fair amount to overall performance.
TWOCHOICEStom
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If Baldock was as good at finishing as he was everything else he does, he wouldn't be playing for us.
I agree entirely with the view that Baldock's finishing is not as good as you'd expect - more specifically, it's his composure in front of goal - he's wont to snatch at a chance. Despite that, because the rest of his game is SO strong, the TEAM is undeniably more effective when he plays. To continue to deny that isn't about opinions, for me - its just stubbornly refusing to admit a mistake.
Ninja Elephant
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- Feb 16, 2009
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No, it's no mistake. He's a poor player who is benefitting massively from playing in a strong team. He was awful last season in a poor team, and he's been by and large awful in a very strong one. I'm just as stubbornly putting my view forward as are the people who are defending his work rate and what he offers which isn't tangible - which is fine, but it's a load of rubbish.
Again, for context, what's ironic is that I was on the other side of this argument with CMS - despite his goals I always liked him, and always supported him on here. Baldock, however, has done nothing - full stop. It's a mute point anyway, he won't be here next season.