Making a Murderer documentary

sully · Jan 8, 2019

Some interesting stuff coming out via Twitter constantly at the moment.

Follow TickTockManitowoc for the best stuff, plus ZellnerLaw

There’s books and everything available (Wrecking Crew is supposed to be the best recent one) -even one from Ken Kratz!

The whole story is incredible and unbelievable in equal measure.

Garry Nelson's teacher · Jan 8, 2019

Were it fiction it would dismissed as too improbable to be credible. Astonishing stuff.

nigeyb · Jan 8, 2019

Does the second series move it on much from the original series? To what extent is it worth watching?

Is it PotG? · Jan 8, 2019

nigeyb said:
Does the second series move it on much from the original series? To what extent is it worth watching?

The new brief fighting his case is unreal. She kind of sneers all the time. Well worth it, and it does move on. Laughably so.

If this were fiction, it would be ridiculed.

Garry Nelson's teacher · Jan 8, 2019

nigeyb said:
Does the second series move it on much from the original series? To what extent is it worth watching?

It gets much more 'forensic'. I stuck with it but it's a marathon not a sprint. I found the time-shifts a bit problematic. It's not an easy watch but I'm glad I did.

nigeyb · Jan 8, 2019

Thanks Garry, thanks Is it PotG - I'll check it out

The Clamp · Jan 8, 2019

If you finish series 2 and are hungry for similar fare may I suggest The Staircase? Gripping. Did he do it? I dunno but I didn’t trust the bloke from the start he just makes too much effort to be nice, reasonable and All - American. but watch and make your own mind up.

Tony Le Mesmer · Jan 8, 2019

The Clamp said:
If you finish series 2 and are hungry for similar fare may I suggest The Staircase? Gripping. Did he do it? I dunno but I didn’t trust the bloke from the start he just makes too much effort to be nice, reasonable and All - American. but watch and make your own mind up.

I totally echo this. Another great did-he-do-it series.

GoingUp · Jan 8, 2019

The Clamp said:
If you finish series 2 and are hungry for similar fare may I suggest The Staircase? Gripping. Did he do it? I dunno but I didn’t trust the bloke from the start he just makes too much effort to be nice, reasonable and All - American. but watch and make your own mind up.

The Staircase is crazy. What I found out after watching, was that Peterson was dating one of the production or editing staff all throughout filming!

Just had a quick Google:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ircase-helped-overturn-murder-conviction.html

The Clamp · Jan 8, 2019

GoingUp said:
The Staircase is crazy. What I found out after watching, was that Peterson was dating one of the production or editing staff all throughout filming!

Just had a quick Google:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ircase-helped-overturn-murder-conviction.html

Well I never! He had certainly had media training but to me he came across as fake and try-hard. He certainly had an interesting background with his military background and “colourful” love life. And his finances were a shambles by all accounts.
I simply didn’t like the bloke though and that probably clouded my judgement.

That’s a great article by the way. Some important facts that were edited out of the series.

GoingUp · Jan 8, 2019

The Clamp said:
Well I never! He had certainly had media training but to me he came across as fake and try-hard. He certainly had an interesting background with his military background and “colourful” love life. And his finances were a shambles by all accounts.
I simply didn’t like the bloke though and that probably clouded my judgement.

That’s a great article by the way. Some important facts that were edited out of the series.

I agree I really didnt like the bloke either, like you say a bit of a 'try hard', like the way he smoked on his pipe etc after I watched the documentary though I did some research (ive forgotten most of it though haha) but there was alot of stuff left out, like his relationship with editor for example and I think one of his sons got arrested for trying to blow up his University or something! I felt sorry for the two daughters out of all of them though, poor girls basically lost their mother (twice) and their Dad.

Hugo Rune · Jan 8, 2019

Off to the Komedia tomorrow for a ‘conversation with Dassey’s Lawyers’! (Sold out)

https://www.komedia.co.uk/brighton/...tion-lawyers-laura-nirider-and-steven-drizin/

Anyone else going??

The Clamp · Jan 8, 2019

GoingUp said:
I agree I really didnt like the bloke either, like you say a bit of a 'try hard', like the way he smoked on his pipe etc after I watched the documentary though I did some research (ive forgotten most of it though haha) but there was alot of stuff left out, like his relationship with editor for example and I think one of his sons got arrested for trying to blow up his University or something! I felt sorry for the two daughters out of all of them though, poor girls basically lost their mother (twice) and their Dad.

The males in that family were a line of utter F-ups. As you say, the women were the ones suffering. Although the daughters agreed with him whatever he said, it seemed to me to be placation and I think they were scared of him.
Also despite all the bluff and bluster he only ever got off on a technicality.

GoingUp · Jan 8, 2019

The Clamp said:
The males in that family were a line of utter F-ups. As you say, the women were the ones suffering. Although the daughters agreed with him whatever he said, it seemed to me to be placation and I think they were scared of him.
Also despite all the bluff and bluster he only ever got off on a technicality.

I dont necessarily think they were scared of him (although they may well had been) but I just think that they had lost so much family already, they just did not want to believe he had done it and lose their father too. As you say they just seemed believed whatever he said, pretty much no questions asked.

The Clamp · Jan 8, 2019

GoingUp said:
I dont necessarily think they were scared of him (although they may well had been) but I just think that they had lost so much family already, they just did not want to believe he had done it and lose their father too. As you say they just seemed believed whatever he said, pretty much no questions asked.

Very good point. He made me feel uneasy and I only saw him on screen, I don’t think I’d want to be in a room with the man. Especially if there was a staircase nearby

Pudos · Jan 8, 2019

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p054dybk/episodes/downloads

Above goes on a bit but can be downloaded and listened to on the move. Peterson given an interview toward end. Like all these progs tho you really have to look at how biased they are, arguments 50/50 rarely seem to happen, but makers make it look like they do.

Is it PotG? · Sep 22, 2023

And this pip of a batshit crazy doc drama is BACK!!

Convicting a Murderer

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Is it PotG? · Nov 1, 2023

Wow, just finished the ten parter.

The makers of Making a Murderer and Netflix don't come out of it too well, makes you cynical about 'documentaries' in the future.

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