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topbanana36

Well-known member
Dec 29, 2007
1,753
New Zealand

Hufffington post the renowned middle of the road newspaper lol. I said where in UKIP manifesto has it said Asian families face deportation. Jeremy Corbyn has said lots of things, it does not mean the party agree with him.

For the record UKIP's policy on immigration.

UKIP will:

Leave the EU and take back control of our borders
End immigration for unskilled jobs for a five-year period to re-balance our work economy
Introduce an Australian-style points-based immigration system to assess all potential migrants to Britain on a fair, ethical and equal basis
Tackle the problem of sham marriages
Introduce a new visa system for workers, visitors, students, families and asylum seekers
End access to benefits and free NHS treatment for new immigrants until they have paid tax and NI for five years
Require all visitors and new immigrants to the UK to have their own health insurance.

No mention of deportation.
 
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Pavilionaire

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
30,521
Hey Nick. I sort of agree in principle, but in the real world you and I know that a very very large proportion of the electorate wouldn't even have twigged the election was going on and a similar amount would not have cared. There's a myriad of reasons why turnout at GE is much larger than BEs, but chief among them is it doesn't matter....you're not voting for the next government as long as the current one has a majority of More than 2. So unless there's a specific single cause that local people want to register a concern about then very few people other than politicians and the media will care - even then turnout is only likely to get up to GE levels if it is the current gov't that is defending the seat and they are particularly disliked or have just done something iffy.

Fair points, although if you were a Labour voter then surely you try and give Corbyn a huge majority to give Cameron something to think about? Jezza needed a lift and he didn't get it, even though Labour kept the seat.
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,265
just seen an interview with Jim McMahon... he is definately not on team Corbyn.
 


Igzilla

Well-known member
Sep 27, 2012
1,641
Worthing
Fair points, although if you were a Labour voter then surely you try and give Corbyn a huge majority to give Cameron something to think about? Jezza needed a lift and he didn't get it, even though Labour kept the seat.

It may be more a quiet sense of relief that the majority was still five figures and the share was up? The low (but not unreasonable - see Manchester Central by election) turnout can be used to mask any other kind of signal from this, but in some regards, maybe a low turnout but increased share shows Labour voters did try to give him a lift? Maybe the Tories will try to claim they deliberately didn't turnout to make the Labour result better than it was? :shrug:
 


I'd like to offer a massive congratulations to everyone associated with the Labour Party on this most stunning of victories that, I'm sure, completely makes up for the utter shoeing they took at the last General Election.

Does that make the score Tories 1 - 1 Loonies for 2015?

What has turned Bozza into Alan B'stard? Anyone know?
 




Jeremy Corbyn now abandoned by everyone apart from ‘voters’

Jezza - now down to his last 20 million supporters…
http://eveningharold.com/2015/12/04/jeremy-corbyn-now-abandoned-by-everyone-apart-from-voters/

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn is now so isolated politically that he can only call upon the support of a shadowy group of people known in the UK as “voters”, it emerged today.

Facing certain defeat in the Oldham by-election, Corbyn played a typically dastardly trick in persuading normal English people to come out of their homes in droves to vote for the Labour candidate.

The result, in which Labour scored a huge popular majority with an increased share of the vote, was condemned by commentators as “treason” and “Labour sympathising”.

Sun columnist Ron Liddle explained that Labour hadn’t really won at all, as getting the most votes in a democratic election was no guarantee of fairness, and proved his point with examples from history including Hitler, Stalin, and, confusingly, ABBA’s 1974 Eurovision Song Contest hit “Waterloo”.

It is unclear where Corbyn can go after this disastrously huge victory. If this performance could be reproduced in the next General Election, Labour would be in line for a stunning victory, but this would be unlikely to save a man who is frankly not allowed to win.

“Corbyn will be feeling pretty ashamed this morning,” insisted Prime Minister David Cameron. “Making it clear to the voters that you don’t support indiscriminate bombing, and then expecting them to vote for you – well, it’s a pretty low trick. Certainly something I’d never do.”

Meanwhile, Nigel ‘Man that time forgot’ Farage was making a convincing case why the Oldham election was unfair to his voters. Apparently, the local preference for postal voting discriminated against UKIP supporters, because they “can’t work out how to use stamps.”
 








glasfryn

cleaning up cat sick
Nov 29, 2005
20,261
somewhere in Eastbourne
reckless is that the same bloke who used to be a tory and then lost his seat at the last election?
 


Danny-Boy

Banned
Apr 21, 2009
5,579
The Coast
Jeremy Corbyn now abandoned by everyone apart from ‘voters’

Jezza - now down to his last 20 million supporters…
http://eveningharold.com/2015/12/04/jeremy-corbyn-now-abandoned-by-everyone-apart-from-voters/

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn is now so isolated politically that he can only call upon the support of a shadowy group of people known in the UK as “voters”, it emerged today.

Facing certain defeat in the Oldham by-election, Corbyn played a typically dastardly trick in persuading normal English people to come out of their homes in droves to vote for the Labour candidate.

The result, in which Labour scored a huge popular majority with an increased share of the vote, was condemned by commentators as “treason” and “Labour sympathising”.

Sun columnist Ron Liddle explained that Labour hadn’t really won at all, as getting the most votes in a democratic election was no guarantee of fairness, and proved his point with examples from history including Hitler, Stalin, and, confusingly, ABBA’s 1974 Eurovision Song Contest hit “Waterloo”.

It is unclear where Corbyn can go after this disastrously huge victory. If this performance could be reproduced in the next General Election, Labour would be in line for a stunning victory, but this would be unlikely to save a man who is frankly not allowed to win.

“Corbyn will be feeling pretty ashamed this morning,” insisted Prime Minister David Cameron. “Making it clear to the voters that you don’t support indiscriminate bombing, and then expecting them to vote for you – well, it’s a pretty low trick. Certainly something I’d never do.”

Meanwhile, Nigel ‘Man that time forgot’ Farage was making a convincing case why the Oldham election was unfair to his voters. Apparently, the local preference for postal voting discriminated against UKIP supporters, because they “can’t work out how to use stamps.”

That's funny I always thought they had plenty of spittle to use...
 



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