Wrong-Direction
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- Mar 10, 2013
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I meant the fact we have no weapons or the majority of coppers don't.
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Germany-Netherlands game 'canceled for security reasons'
- Thread starter TomandJerry
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portlock seagull
Why? Why us?
- Jul 28, 2003
- 17,075
I am a cynic of course. But experience, age or even call it wisdom (!) teaches you so. Our politicians have proven time and again they're self serving and almost the polar opposite of who you want leading in a crisis. Something changed, it wasn't all roses in the past but I can't help feeling public duty and moral compasses held more sway amongst the political class of yesteryear. And make no mistake. This is a crisis. And a bloody long one that's arguably just beginning. Our leaders are weak. Our established democracies crumbling in the face of energised, youthful and worryingly violent extremists. And they have the ear if not yet sympathy of a disenfranchised sizeable second generation who don't see themselves as Europeans. Further exacerbated by millions more arriving each year who don't share our liberal values or heritage. I really don't like what's happening. Not because I'm racist. But because I read a lot (A LOT!) of history and time and again mankind has proved it can't get along when different cultures and religions feel threatened. Usually resulting in untold misery and destruction. It's best to "keep em apart" therefore rather than force coexistence in my opinion. That's what's happening in Europe now. It's going to get ugly, maybe quicker than any of us realise. Certainly more than our politicians probably do.
Probably more due to Islamic fanatics with a medieval belief mechanism routed in the seventh century, no regard for human life and a cache of semi-automatic rifles.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
I've found the link. It was VJ day not VE day.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...dist-killed-after-plot-to-kill-the-Queen.html
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 35,310
tedious nonsense. some people are practically willing there to be an event to shout "told you so".
it could be 1 inquisitive, sharp eyed officer noticing something. on the other hand a group of 7 could slip past 220,000. i recall the border guards missed picking up one on the run in the hours after the event.
quality not quantity is name of the game.
Guy Fawkes
The voice of treason
- Sep 29, 2007
- 8,200
They had no reason to suspect him at the time and there was no evidence to say that he was involved so they didn't detain him.
They now know that he probably hired the car that was used in the attacks but at the time he reached the border, this information wasn't known to the authorities and they wouldn't have known that anyone from Belgium was involved so therefore he would have appeared like anyone else looking to return back into their own country (Belgium)
I don't think it had anything to do with the quality or quantity of officers
The good thing is that although we may not have the numbers re police in comparison, we have arguably the best armed forces to back them up if needed.
Is population the right measure ? France is more than twice the size of the UK so arguably would expect to have a larger force.
Well of course the alternative is Jeremy, good luck with that! Oh and Thatcher would be dribbling like a rabid dog if she was IC.
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Mackenzie
Old Brightonian
We're any explosives actually found?
pasty
A different kind of pasty
Guilty as charged M'lady. About 2 weeks after 7/7 I accidentally left my small rucksack on a train at London Bridge on the way to work. I realised I'd left it on the train and with all the security going on thought I'd best find a police officer straight away and tell him. I was called a few choice names, as the train had already left on it's next journey, but they then stopped it at Norwood Junction and took my bag off, and I had to go and pick it up on the way home, whereupon I got another bollocking from another police officer
Vegas Seagull
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- Jul 10, 2009
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Good call, own goal by the Germans. Poor
pasty
A different kind of pasty
Damned if they do, damned if they don't. If they hadn't cancelled and it wasn't a false alarm........