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Herr Tubthumper · Nov 1, 2015

Colonel Angus said:
And yet when you consider how good they are at Football, Cricket, Tennis, Golf, Motor Sport or any other global sport it becomes clearer that their success is at the expense of practically every other sport. It's an interesting choice to have made. If you live over there and don't like Rugby it must be hell.

I know a girl who lives in NZ and she doesn't like rugby. But, she loves living there. I get regular updates and I have to say it does seem a lovely, and easy, country to live in. Far from hell.

el punal · Nov 1, 2015

Hampster Gull said:
Born and grew up there and youre spot on. Its a national obession.

Which is the reason why they are numero uno.

ExmouthExile · Nov 1, 2015

I thought this was pretty amazing, what a gesture.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1efwKglwZU

Working class pride · Nov 1, 2015

A few years ago, New Zealand's highest paid "sportsman" carried Tiger Woods golf clubs. A fact that always made me chuckle, especially when a Kiwi was trying to convince me that Rugby Union was a global game like football and that one of their rugby players (who I had never heard of) was as big a star as George Best, Ronaldo or Messi ! Having said that, the All Blacks are a great institution and the rugby has been enjoyable. Well done the Kiwis, they seemed head and shoulders above everyone else.

The Oldman · Nov 1, 2015

Marty___Mcfly said:
Love the Haka too- it always scares the opposition.. http://youtu.be/emJyEa4z2Ec

Am I alone, it just makes me laugh.

Guinness Boy · Nov 1, 2015

matthew said:
Amazing how a nation of 4 million people is that incredibly good at rugby.

Also how uniteresting rugby is whb there's no world cup final thread and it's being played in our own country...

Gwylan said:
Could be because the game's only just finished and the people who are interested have been watching the match. It was a cracking final - by some way the best one yet

Might be just me as a part time rubgy fan but all this talk of "best World Cup ever" - really? It's been totally obvious from the start the New Zealand would win it. In 2003 you had no idea until literally the last kick. Yes that's England win bias but how can people be lauding a tournament where pretty much every game there was at least one player stretchered off, where the inferiority of Northern Hemisphere teams and Southern Hemisphere referees was painfully obvious and the winner was a shoe in from kick one?

Green Cross Code Man · Nov 1, 2015

Triggaaar said:
Hardly German. Germany is a modern country with modern boundaries. As you say, we're a mix. We're all from Africa originally.

The Normans were descended from Vikings who were a Germanic tribe. How is that hardly German?

skipper734 · Nov 1, 2015

https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/human-journey/

alfredmizen · Nov 1, 2015

Hampster Gull said:
You are all mongrels

Doesnt say much for you that you couldnt make a go of it where you grew up and had to come here then does it :wanker:

Triggaaar · Nov 1, 2015

Green Cross Code Man said:
The Normans were descended from Vikings who were a Germanic tribe. How is that hardly German?

For a couple of reasons. Firstly, the Normans weren't pure Vikings, the Vikings mixed with the local people (they did particularly like the mixing part). Secondly, Vikings themselves weren't German, they were Germanic, which is not the same. Germanic are not people who come from Germany, the Romans called Gauls Germanic.

The English weren't Norman, I assume they were largely Anglo-Saxon, with Normans and Danes etc thrown in, as well as the Celts. We're certainly not a purebred race of people who descended from a land which is now called Germany.

I suspect you've got Germany and Germanic mixed up.

Green Cross Code Man · Nov 1, 2015

Triggaaar said:
For a couple of reasons. Firstly, the Normans weren't pure Vikings, the Vikings mixed with the local people (they did particularly like the mixing part). Secondly, Vikings themselves weren't German, they were Germanic, which is not the same. Germanic are not people who come from Germany, the Romans called Gauls Germanic.

The English weren't Norman, I assume they were largely Anglo-Saxon, with Normans and Danes etc thrown in, as well as the Celts. We're certainly not a purebred race of people who descended from a land which is now called Germany.

I suspect you've got Germany and Germanic mixed up.

You are right. However modern Germans are the result of the mixture primarily, of many Germanic tribes. Germanic is a loose term and can mean ethnically or linguistically. It seems likely that there is a great deal of ethnic familiarity between the Norsemen and the Germans as there is much in common with their languages. Some Viking lands were in modern Germany in any case. And yes, the Normans would have been less Norse as they had been in northern France for a couple of hundred years. I seem to remember reading recent evidence that celts were also related to the Germanic tribes but just arrived in Europe a little before. I love history and find this particularly appealing, but in the end, we are all just humans after all!

Triggaaar · Nov 1, 2015

Green Cross Code Man said:
You are right.

Good lord, I wasn't expecting that. Thanks.

However modern Germans are the result of the mixture primarily, of many Germanic tribes. Germanic is a loose term and can mean ethnically or linguistically. It seems likely that there is a great deal of ethnic familiarity between the Norsemen and the Germans as there is much in common with their languages. Some Viking lands were in modern Germany in any case.

I imagine there's a good mix of Romans in there too? I googled Germanic Map and got this, under images:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=g...-AAMvA&biw=1600&bih=886#imgrc=DDaBrumIj9XqxM:

I seem to remember reading recent evidence that celts were also related to the Germanic tribes but just arrived in Europe a little before. I love history and find this particularly appealing, but in the end, we are all just humans after all!

There's just been a decent series about the Celts on tv (The Celts: Blood, Iron And Sacrifice), with the slaggy Dr Alice Roberts.

Green Cross Code Man · Nov 1, 2015

Triggaaar said:
Good lord, I wasn't expecting that. Thanks.
I imagine there's a good mix of Romans in there too? I googled Germanic Map and got this, under images:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=g...-AAMvA&biw=1600&bih=886#imgrc=DDaBrumIj9XqxM:

There's just been a decent series about the Celts on tv (The Celts: Blood, Iron And Sacrifice), with the slaggy Dr Alice Roberts.

Thanks for the heads up about the celts, I'll have to watch that on catch up if it's available.

Hampster Gull · Nov 1, 2015

alfredmizen said:
Doesnt say much for you that you couldnt make a go of it where you grew up and had to come here then does it

Just one for the millions who have made their home here that you despise so much. Happy days

Return of the Rev · Nov 1, 2015

Green Cross Code Man said:
You are right. However modern Germans are the result of the mixture primarily, of many Germanic tribes. Germanic is a loose term and can mean ethnically or linguistically. It seems likely that there is a great deal of ethnic familiarity between the Norsemen and the Germans as there is much in common with their languages. Some Viking lands were in modern Germany in any case. And yes, the Normans would have been less Norse as they had been in northern France for a couple of hundred years. I seem to remember reading recent evidence that celts were also related to the Germanic tribes but just arrived in Europe a little before. I love history and find this particularly appealing, but in the end, we are all just humans after all!

Blooming good lager as well :moo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucvLib4swC4

alfredmizen · Nov 1, 2015

Hampster Gull said:
Just one for the millions who have made their home here that you despise so much. Happy days

Not all, just :wanker:

like you.

Hampster Gull · Nov 1, 2015

alfredmizen said:
Not all, just like you.

You have a narrow mind getting narrower :lolol:

dannyboy · Nov 1, 2015

were looking to emigrate to NZ not sure if it will happen or not but be nice if it did

Hampster Gull · Nov 1, 2015

dannyboy said:
were looking to emigrate to NZ not sure if it will happen or not but be nice if it did

Fingers crossed, hope it comes off for you

alfredmizen · Nov 1, 2015

Hampster Gull said:
You have a narrow mind getting narrower

If responding to your post "your all mongrels" with a bit of abuse is a narrow mind, then so be it.

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