Mackenzie
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It was quite a few years ago, maybe 10-12......time goes so quickly these days.
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John Lennon
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Leyton Gull
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- Sep 14, 2015
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I thought it was fairly well known he had a pad on Hove seafront not far from the King Alfred.
Mackenzie
Old Brightonian
That would be it then. She was pretty good on her skates all things considered.
KZNSeagull
Well-known member
It's funny how some people slag off Paul McCartney - he is hugely respected in the music industry to this day. I read a very interesting article about Youth from Killing Joke working with him a few years ago (a rather unlikely partnership you would think) plus there was a documentary with Dave Grohl where he also worked with him (he said he was drumming away in this studio getting into the music, when he looked up and suddenly realised that he here was playing with a living legend). His music may be lame to my ears, but I cannot deny that he is still a music legend, one that the Brits should be proud of. It would have been the same with Lennon were he still here.
Half Time Pies
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and...the most successful and influential of all of them.
Pogue Mahone
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- Apr 30, 2011
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The Beatles were great, weren't they? And Lennon and McCartney were a fantastic partnership.
I'm not a fan of Lennon's solo stuff.
And reading this, it would seem that the man was more of a cad (a mild term of abuse got starred out) than is generally recognised: https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/arti...lennon-beat-women-and-childrenits-just-a-fact
I'm not a fan of Lennon's solo stuff.
And reading this, it would seem that the man was more of a cad (a mild term of abuse got starred out) than is generally recognised: https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/arti...lennon-beat-women-and-childrenits-just-a-fact
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Having been to a gig where he sang for over two hours with just a mike, I can say he did not sound amateurish, in any sense.
My comment was actually sarcastic but no one has picked that up.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
I did. Your first word gave it away.
Nice one.
Leyton Gull
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- Sep 14, 2015
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Amateurish is a bit strong. His studio recording voice can be majestic but given he is actually mortal, like the rest of us he wants to show us that he's a bit of a venue rocker. Not amateurish then, but there are many who are better at live rock vocals.
Absolutely spot on, to state anything to the contrary is just ridiculous.
Changed the face of music as we know it.
Wrote a lot of hit songs for other artists as well.
Chaos and Creation in the Backyard is an awesome album - ably assisted by Radiohead producer Nigel Godrich
Marxo
Well-known member
For anyone interested here are some very interesting interviews (podcasts) used to make the film (American Masters LENNONYC).
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/lennonyc-beyond-broadcast-episode-1-jack-douglas/1623/
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/lennonyc-beyond-broadcast-episode-1-jack-douglas/1623/
BadFish
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- Oct 19, 2003
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Where as he would tell you that when he met Yoko he very much found his way.
BadFish
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- Oct 19, 2003
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Some people will always choose to focus on the negatives. There are many with most people but what John (and Paul) did means that their positives are quite quite amazing, if you care to acknowledge them.
BadFish
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- Oct 19, 2003
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I stopped reading the article after the phrase 'whom he impregnated' (as if Cynthia had nothing to do with it). It is well known that John had a mean and unpleasant side to his character so i assume she has plenty of evidence for her hatchet job. Her turn of phrase suggests that he article is not going to be balanced in any way or seek to explain anything so i think i will give it a miss.
I eagerly await her next articles highlighting the darker side of peoples characters though. "Ghandi was passive aggressive" is a particular hit.
Edit: okay so i read it
Actually not a bad piece although I don't think she achieved her aim of painting the monster that she appears to be aiming for. What she describes is a bloke with issues and pressures who acts out in a sometimes hideous way. I am not including hitting Julian for perceived bad table manners as given the context of the era this was not entirely uncommon. I would also suggest that if this is the example that she chooses first and goes into most detail about then she has not done her research terribly well. A better example of Johns violence would be his constant fights with Stu Sutcliffe and the (unconfirmed) suspicions that one of these fights led to his death. No-one is going to claim that Lennon was some kid of saint but I think her article could have been similar for many people around that era and if you consider how other rock stars behaved his misgivings pale into insignificance when compared to others.As she alludes to in the article it is often noted that the things Lennon did in later life and the peace and love that he espoused were born of the anger and violence of his early life. Possibly to atone for his sins or as a coping method. The bottom line is that as with most great artists the bloke was ****ed up and ****ed up people do shitty things but they also do amazing things. To focus too heavily on either aspect does not give you the whole picture of a person. I Suppose many people focus too much on the great things that he did and the article attempts to bring some balance to the celebrations of his achievements. I don't think it really achieve that though. Perhaps if she had provided more evidence of his violence towards women then her argument would have been stronger.
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