Murphy's red card

Sheebo

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• #41

Hillian1 said:

I've seen it about five times now.

Straight red in my opinion.

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He was sent off for serious foul play... Where was that?

 

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BensGrandad

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• #42

sheebo said:

He was sent off for serious foul play... Where was that?

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Which it would be if the ref deemed he dived in 2 footed, which he has to say to back his decision or admit he was wrong and that is unlikely.

 

El Turi

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I've seen a few Bolton fans insisting it was a bad tackle which shows that they must know nothing about football as he slipped. As you can see, his right foot gives way just before he accidentally slides into Danns.

 

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samtheseagull

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• #44

I really cant see how anyone can think its a red card. He slipped over

 

El Turi

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And here's Madine using Hunemeier as a step ladder for the equaliser:

 

Beach Hut

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• #46

El Turi said:

And here's Madine using Hunemeier as a step ladder for the equaliser:
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Which is not a lot different to what Butters did at West Ham when we won a few years ago.......

 

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GloryDays

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One Love said:

...and for the winner he looked to be climbing.

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That was his own player and I think they were celebrating the goal.

 

Grombleton

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In real time you can see why he was sent off, but on review it's clear he slipped and hopefully it'll be overturned.

 

Creaky

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• #49

samtheseagull said:

I really cant see how anyone can think its a red card. He slipped over

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Is 'intent' a necessary factor to justify a red card?

What about a yellow, does that require intent?

 

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samtheseagull

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• #50

Grombleton said:

In real time you can see why he was sent off, but on review it's clear he slipped and hopefully it'll be overturned.

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Agree

 

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samtheseagull

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• #51

Creaky said:

Is 'intent' a necessary factor to justify a red card?

What about a yellow, does that require intent?

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If someone slipped over and handled the ball, Would that be a card? I personally don't even think Murphy deserved a yellow

 

Sheebo

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El Turi said:

And here's Madine using Hunemeier as a step ladder for the equaliser:
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See... That is clear as day!

 

Sheebo

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Beach Hut said:

Which is not a lot different to what Butters did at West Ham when we won a few years ago.......

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and......? It's still a clear foul - you can't do that!

 

Creaky

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• #54

samtheseagull said:

If someone slipped over and handled the ball, Would that be a card? I personally don't even think Murphy deserved a yellow

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I don't know which is what I was asking - if a defender fell over onto the ball in the penalty area handling the ball would it be a penalty - if the fall obstructed a clear goal scoring opportunity would it be a red?

 

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Mancgull

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• #55

El Turi said:

I've seen a few Bolton fans insisting it was a bad tackle which shows that they must know nothing about football as he slipped. As you can see, his right foot gives way just before he accidentally slides into Danns.

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El Turi

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So the appeal has been confirmed. Surely it's a formality that it will get rescinded.

 

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Hotchilidog

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• #57

sheebo said:

See... That is clear as day!

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That is a foul.

 

Pavilionaire

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• #58

Hillian1 said:

I've seen it about five times now.

Straight red in my opinion.

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Should've gone to Specsavers.

 

KZNSeagull

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• #59

El Turi said:

I've seen a few Bolton fans insisting it was a bad tackle which shows that they must know nothing about football as he slipped. As you can see, his right foot gives way just before he accidentally slides into Danns.

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Agreed and his left foot is clearly being raised to kick the ball towards Bong, not kick the defender which is ultimately what happened as he obviously slipped.

 

Sheebo

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KZNSeagull said:

Agreed and his left foot is clearly being raised to kick the ball towards Bong, not kick the defender which is ultimately what happened as he obviously slipped.

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Yep - wasn't even going in for a tackle! Bolton fans on Twitter don't seem to grasp this and are saying 'oh do you usually lunge 2 footed after slipping'