Water carriers being prepared to do the donkey work, in support of one or two star players, rather than to get themselves noticed, is the absolute DEFINITION of team-work.
Good GRIEF, no.
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Water carriers being prepared to do the donkey work, in support of one or two star players, rather than to get themselves noticed, is the absolute DEFINITION of team-work.
Good GRIEF, no.
alfredmizen
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Not me.
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Nope. Take away the sense of national pride and/or plucky underdoggedness and there's not a lot else left to get behind. Gawd save us all from a bland generic Team GB.
Good point
Yep - absolutely. Team GB (outside of the Olympics) is a massive NO for me.
alfredmizen
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Yes 99.9 % do, yes i know youre wife is from northern ireland , yes they're nice to your face making encouraging noises in front of you if youre watching England on TV or youre talking football with them ,yes behind youre back they'll be slating the **** out of England , yes you need to come down from everyoneislovelyland and join the real world.
That's a rather pessimistic way of looking at it if you ask me, Mr Hark. I knew when I typed the words it wouldn't be popular. I implore you to allow me to change your opinion, you see I'm the sort of chap that likes to celebrate what we have in common - not focus on our differences.
Personally I'd love to see a coming together of Great nations for a common cause. I'd love to see us all appreciate our national differences and put them all aside. I'd like to see us unite in our love of the Beautiful Game. I want to see one Team GB stand together, not nasty individualistic point scoring nonsense. I want to a spirit of camaraderie and companionship. #Together we're stronger. #Together we're more likely to beat Germany.
Now if we'd had Giggs crossing balls in for Shearer.. I wonder if we might have a bit more silverware in the locker?
Well, there's an awful lot of wrong right there.
They all want to beat us, of course, and a minority of knuckle-draggers harbour genuine grudges, but for the VAST majority its just pantomime.
(And my wife is not from Northern Ireland).
Team GB? No thanks.
Hatred towards our small neighbouring countries? No thanks. I prefer to leave that sort of thing to the Celtic minnows along with their other tin-pot traditions that mark them out as no marks, like celebrating saints days and wearing comedy "traditional" costume. England is proper confident country capable of defining itself with something other than "we all hate <another country>".
Hatred towards our small neighbouring countries? No thanks. I prefer to leave that sort of thing to the Celtic minnows along with their other tin-pot traditions that mark them out as no marks, like celebrating saints days and wearing comedy "traditional" costume. England is proper confident country capable of defining itself with something other than "we all hate <another country>".
alfredmizen
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Ireland then
Hardly.
Basically what you are suggesting, boils down to "We'd quite like to poach Gareth Bale, for a re-branded England team"
No-one in Scotland, Northern Ireland or many in Wales, will be #Together behind that team.
alfredmizen
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yes as evidenced by the totally non partisan yes campaign in the recent scottish independence vote and the 45 % that backed them.
Yep - because the referendum question was actually "Do you hate England?" wasn't it?
55/45 is a massive difference. For every No voter, 22% more people wanted to stay in the union - and that is despite the fact that we have two bob little Englanders running around in UKIP, threatening to pull us out of Europe and destroying the Scottish economy (they are far more reliant on the EU than we are).
Really not what I'm saying at all. Of course they wouldn't agree to that, neither should it be suggested. Obviously there would have to be an even spread of players.
Personally, I wouldn't be close minded to it - but I can understand how you might be,
alfredmizen
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i doubt many even read the question , but the campaign was certainly based on anti english sentiment.
It would be interesting to get a Scotsman's take on this. You know, the people the referendum was aimed at, rather than you just declaring it was anti-English.
Personally, I reckon this is more subjective angry bollocks from you.
Well, unless you devise a ridiculous and counter-productive quota system, where the manager is forced to include Paddy McCourt, Lewin Nyatanga and a couple of token Scottish donkeys, you will never get anything remotely close to an 'even spread of players'.