Attendances Thread

sir albion · Sep 12, 2015

Blue Valkyrie said:
Guessing less 'no shows' in the reported figures this year

Maybe all the no shows never renewed :smile:

The only games that have a fair few no shows are midweek games anyway and that's understandable expeicially for the fans who don't live in Brighton and we have plenty of those.

Steve Foster · Sep 29, 2015

With the league fixtures completed for September & the season taking hold, let's have a look at the marmite thread (attendances), comparing each teams, average league attendance so far, to their average over 2014/2015

Derby 29,030/29,232 -202
Leeds 24,177/24,276 -99
BHA 23,374/25,645 -2,271
Middlesbrough 22,970/19,562 +3,408
Sheffield W 20,796/21,993 -1,197
Wolves 20,265/22,419 -2,154
Ipswich 19,758/19,603 +155
Nottingham F 19,360/23,492 -4,132
Birmingham 18,007/16,111 +1,896
Reading 17,659/17,022 +657
Hull 17,205/23,557 -6,352
Fulham 16,461/18,276 -1,815
Charlton 15,852/16,708 -856
Bolton 15,223/15,413 -190
Burnley 15,141/19,131 -3,990
Bristol C 14,848/12,056 +2,792
QPR 14,842/17,809 -2,967
Cardiff 14,341/21,124 -6,783
MK Dons 13,853/9,452 +4,401
Blackburn 13,726/14,912 -1,186
Preston 13,174/10,852 -2,322
Huddersfield 11,151/13,613 -2,462
Brentford 9,948/10,822 -874
Rotherham 9,180/10,240 -1,060

Thoughts?

Downsman · Oct 2, 2015

This point may have been made before, but why are attendances lower so far this season than last when we have not only made such a good start to the season, but are playing entertaining football? Does it just reflect the absence of season ticket holders that haven't renewed?

Working class pride · Oct 3, 2015

Steve Foster said:
With the league fixtures completed for September & the season taking hold, let's have a look at the marmite thread (attendances), comparing each teams, average league attendance so far, to their average over 2014/2015

Derby 29,030/29,232 -202
Leeds 24,177/24,276 -99
BHA 23,374/25,645 -2,271
Middlesbrough 22,970/19,562 +3,408
Sheffield W 20,796/21,993 -1,197
Wolves 20,265/22,419 -2,154
Ipswich 19,758/19,603 +155
Nottingham F 19,360/23,492 -4,132
Birmingham 18,007/16,111 +1,896
Reading 17,659/17,022 +657
Hull 17,205/23,557 -6,352
Fulham 16,461/18,276 -1,815
Charlton 15,852/16,708 -856
Bolton 15,223/15,413 -190
Burnley 15,141/19,131 -3,990
Bristol C 14,848/12,056 +2,792
QPR 14,842/17,809 -2,967
Cardiff 14,341/21,124 -6,783
MK Dons 13,853/9,452 +4,401
Blackburn 13,726/14,912 -1,186
Preston 13,174/10,852 -2,322
Huddersfield 11,151/13,613 -2,462
Brentford 9,948/10,822 -874
Rotherham 9,180/10,240 -1,060

Thoughts?

Well, Leeds and Derby get more away fans because Brighton is (on top of travel to London) another hour / two hours across London. Brighton still have the best support in the lower leagues. I wonder what could be achieved with a team in the top flight.

GOM · Oct 3, 2015

Steve Foster said:
With the league fixtures completed for September & the season taking hold, let's have a look at the marmite thread (attendances), comparing each teams, average league attendance so far, to their average over 2014/2015

Derby 29,030/29,232 -202
Leeds 24,177/24,276 -99
BHA 23,374/25,645 -2,271
Middlesbrough 22,970/19,562 +3,408
Sheffield W 20,796/21,993 -1,197
Wolves 20,265/22,419 -2,154
Ipswich 19,758/19,603 +155
Nottingham F 19,360/23,492 -4,132
Birmingham 18,007/16,111 +1,896
Reading 17,659/17,022 +657
Hull 17,205/23,557 -6,352
Fulham 16,461/18,276 -1,815
Charlton 15,852/16,708 -856
Bolton 15,223/15,413 -190
Burnley 15,141/19,131 -3,990
Bristol C 14,848/12,056 +2,792
QPR 14,842/17,809 -2,967
Cardiff 14,341/21,124 -6,783
MK Dons 13,853/9,452 +4,401
Blackburn 13,726/14,912 -1,186
Preston 13,174/10,852 -2,322
Huddersfield 11,151/13,613 -2,462
Brentford 9,948/10,822 -874
Rotherham 9,180/10,240 -1,060

Thoughts?

Think the +/- figure for Preston may be wrong

Steve Foster · Nov 2, 2015

The stats are now in to the end of October & make some interesting reading. The average league attendance this season (all clubs) is 17,223, down from an average gate (whole season 2014/15) of 17,857.

Looking at the 18 teams who were in this league last season, only 3 clubs Middlesbrough +15.6%, Birmingham +13.6%, Reading +8.3% have seen increases in attendances.

Cardiff have witnessed the biggest slump of -32.1%, followed by Nottingham Forest -17.4%, Huddersfield -13.3% & Wolves -11.2%

We have experienced a drop in attendances of -6.6% (which is worse than the average of -3.6%)

Team average
1 Derby County 29.260
2 Brighton & Hove Albion 23.958
3 Leeds United 23.387
4 Middlesbrough FC 22.613
5 Sheffield Wednesday 20.917
6 Wolverhampton Wanderer 19.914
7 Nottingham Forest 19.395
8 Ipswich Town 19.128
9 Reading FC 18.430
10 Birmingham City 18.306
11 Fulham FC 17.270
12 Hull City 17.058
13 Burnley FC 15.727
14 Bolton Wanderers 15.428
15 Queens Park Rangers 15.204
16 Charlton Athletic 15.177
17 Bristol City 14.995
18 Blackburn Rovers 14.349
19 Cardiff City 14.338
20 Milton Keynes Dons 13.739
21 Preston North End 13.070
22 Huddersfield Town 11.800
23 Brentford FC 10.296
24 Rotherham United 9.600

Steve Foster · Nov 8, 2015

After 8 league games at The Amex, our average attendances have been:

2011: 20,154
2012: 25,495
2013: 26,802
2014: 24,994
2015: 23,921

Thoughts?

If any .......................

Taybha · Nov 8, 2015

Too fkn expensive spring to mind

dazzer6666 · Nov 8, 2015

Bums on seats for us are well up on last year, shame we don't know the 'true' attendance figures.

Hampster Gull · Nov 8, 2015

Hats off to Derby

Steve Foster · Nov 8, 2015

Unless we go up next season, I suspect the crowds will go down again. With the 1901 renewals, I know of a number of firms, who will not be renewing. Suppose it's a case of been there done that.

Also, with our 5th season at the Amex, some just want to be entertained & see goals. In truth in 5+ seasons, wie have only had one decent forward. Amazing we have done as well considering! I'll be a season ticket whatever league we are in, but then at Withdean we didn't sell out! All about winning & being entertained at a reasonable price.

Icy Gull · Nov 8, 2015

Steve Foster said:
Unless we go up next season, I suspect the crowds will go down again. With thfe 1901 renewals, I know of a number of firms, who will not be renewing. Suppose it's a case of been there done that.

Also, with our 5th season at the Amex, some just want to be entertained & see goals. In truth in 5+ seasons, wie have only had one decent forward. Amazing we have done as well considering! I'll be a season ticket whatever league we are in, but then at Withdean we didn't sell out! All about winning & being entertained at a reasonable price.

It is indeed unbelievable that we have had only one top Championship quality striker in 5 years. I am not counting BZ as he is only capable of a few minutes a game.

sir albion · Nov 8, 2015

Poor strikers have been a conveyer belt here

chaileyjem · Nov 8, 2015

Icy Gull said:
It is indeed unbelievable that we have had only one top Championship quality striker in 5 years. I am not counting BZ as he is only capable of a few minutes a game.

The only 20 goal a season Championship striker in the last 5 seasons who's been on our books is not actually Ulloa.
Its Sam Vokes.

Machiavelli · Nov 8, 2015

Steve Foster said:
After 8 league games at The Amex, our average attendances have been:

2011: 20,154
2012: 25,495
2013: 26,802
2014: 24,994
2015: 23,921

Thoughts? If any .......................

That's a revealing set of figures. There is the expense issue (which might not bother you

but will do many), but it also shows that there were too many flimsy fans coming in previous seasons, too many of which got put off by last season's horror show.

Bognor Seagull · Nov 8, 2015

Machiavelli said:
That's a revealing set of figures. There is the expense issue (which might not bother you but will do many), but it also shows that there were too many flimsy fans coming in previous seasons, too many of which got put off by last season's horror show.

Think it's more of a case of too many people wanting instant gratification. If they don't get it they get bored & move on.

Machiavelli · Nov 8, 2015

Bognor Seagull said:
Think it's more of a case of too many people wanting instant gratification. If they don't get it they get bored & move on.

Yup. I meant that by the phrase flimsy fans, but you've been clearer.

Bognor Seagull · Nov 8, 2015

Machiavelli said:
Yup. I meant that by the phrase flimsy fans, but you've been clearer.

Are we a bit tin pot when we take less than 500 away to Sheffield W & near the top, but only attract 23,000 at home? Compared historically it's brill but Leeds, SheffW, Wolves for instance would attract more in our position ...

*Gullsworth* · Nov 8, 2015

Bognor Seagull said:
Are we a bit tin pot when we take less than 500 away to Sheffield W & near the top, but only attract 23,000 at home? Compared historically it's brill but Leeds, SheffW, Wolves for instance would attract more in our position ...

I don't think we are tin pot but I think the majority of Brighton fans would agree the teams you mentioned have far bigger support than we have (historically )

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