Justice
Dangerous Idiot
Naylor rarely seems to have anything positive to say about the club, I'm not really sure what his angle is does anyone else?
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Is anybody else finding this dick swinging competition between NSC and Naylor #Cringe?
- Thread starter The_Viper
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His angle is that he claims to know lots, and that others that say they know things (NSC) don't and are wrong, and that it's an exclusive in his paper. He then turns out to be wrong, or late with the news.
Baldseagull
Well-known member
I have found that his opinion pieces are heavily influenced by how he gets along personally with the manager of the day, that he has a low opinion of us as fans and uses the dullest and most tenuous analogies in his writing. Brian Owen pieces are better.
Tom Hark Preston Park
Will Post For Cash
- Jul 6, 2003
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Quite. If it wasn't Andy Naylor being targeted, it'd be Brian Owen - who is another decent journalist by the way. Guess it just goes with the Albion reporting turf. Doubtless the equivalent journo / messageboard animosity exists at just about every other club. Same as every club has to have a rival club to hate, however drummed-up and patently fake that rivalry may be. It's all part and parcel of the pantomime.
Mackenzie
Old Brightonian
The Argus is no longer my first port of call when it comes to Albion news. NSC has blown them out of the water.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
On the contrary, I haven't seen any complaints about Brian Owen, when he covers the Albion stories. He doesn't have a pop at fans on Twitter either.
severnside gull
Well-known member
Compare and contrast with John Vinnicombe who was a nasty drunk but who was fortunate to live in an age when the printed word was All there was and as a result he is still held in some respect.
Naylor & Owen on the other hand do as well as most given the modern competition for breaking news but he doesn't help himself by openly disrespecting the biggest fans forum and disparaging everyone using social media who isn't a "professional"
The failure in his relationship with the club can't be truly laid at his door as it almost certainly emanates from Barber. Whilst we are not a Chelsea in the way we try to control the media we do keep our business operations quite private. It's why I frankly disbelieve all the "I know someone in the club who says.........." reports on here. Unless they have been "briefed in" then no-one has an inside track these days. The best source of news about our transfer dealings is almost always going to be from the other end. Who breaks it will depend on who reads it first at source and there are more of us than just Naylor & Owen to do the looking.
Naylor & Owen on the other hand do as well as most given the modern competition for breaking news but he doesn't help himself by openly disrespecting the biggest fans forum and disparaging everyone using social media who isn't a "professional"
The failure in his relationship with the club can't be truly laid at his door as it almost certainly emanates from Barber. Whilst we are not a Chelsea in the way we try to control the media we do keep our business operations quite private. It's why I frankly disbelieve all the "I know someone in the club who says.........." reports on here. Unless they have been "briefed in" then no-one has an inside track these days. The best source of news about our transfer dealings is almost always going to be from the other end. Who breaks it will depend on who reads it first at source and there are more of us than just Naylor & Owen to do the looking.
fat old seagull
New member
Mmmm the hands thing could be something of a handicap with regard to the 'dick swinging'! Unless of course he is a very big boy!
hitony
Administrator
I tend to use NSC for pretty much most news, have done for many years now, someone on here nearly always breaks new news about most stuff with links etc, footy related or just general news, I would be surprised if many others dont do the same.
Tom Hark Preston Park
Will Post For Cash
- Jul 6, 2003
- 70,220
Quite. Like for example the Youth Hostelling with Chris Eubank link today
. Recent example of NSC Breaking News that springs to mind was when that Virgin plane a couple of months back hit a bit of mechanical trouble and had to start dumping fuel and return to Gatwick. NSC provided a flightradar24 link for the flight. Went to the BBC news website and there was nothing whatsoever on there for quite some time. In the end I phoned up their duty officer, got put through to their newsroom, talked them through the flightradar24 link and hey presto within ten minutes it flashed up as Breaking News complete with flightradar24 graphics.
- Apr 5, 2014
- 23,587
If you post a false rumour as fact on NSC, in an articulate way and believable way, it will be lifted and placed on to wider forums such as Twitter. If it gets far enough the papers will follow it.
That's why I ignore all transfer speculation unless it comes from a credible source. I regard Bozza as one, and I have another who I think has access to the same source. Peter O'Rourke rarely seems to get anything wrong. The funniest account in Twitter is Soccer Sauce, who has many devoted followers, even those all his accomplished posts are re-prints, and everything he has forecast about Albion has been wrong, unless it was copied from.... here.
Woodchip
It's all about the bikes
Nothing more cringeworthy than hash tags outside of Twitter
Greg Bobkin
Silver Seagull
- May 22, 2012
- 14,852
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Andy Naylor REPORTS on what is happening at the club, when it happens - i.e. when it's confirmed by the club. Clearly that approach doesn't wash with some people but there are others that rely on The Argus, rather than use NSC.
I don't get the slagging he gets, nor the character assassinations or constant picking at him for every little thing he gets wrong.
He's doing a job; I personally think he does it pretty well.
MattBackHome
Well-known member
- Jul 7, 2003
- 11,729
Yeah I don't get the Naylorbashing to be honest. Tough jobthat's only going to get harder with more media fragmentation in the future. He does pretty well. I'm not sure what people expect to be honest.
As said, for any real scoops you'd want to be on here anyway
As said, for any real scoops you'd want to be on here anyway
blockhseagull
Well-known member
Think most understand that Naylor doesn't do a bad job bearing in mind what he can and can't report on.
Think the problem with most is his attitude, thinks everyone else on Twitter or on NSC is a pleb and does seem to have had a chip on his shoulder with the club ever since his mate McGhee was sacked and he is firmly on the outside looking in rather than his position with McGhee at the helm.
Think the problem with most is his attitude, thinks everyone else on Twitter or on NSC is a pleb and does seem to have had a chip on his shoulder with the club ever since his mate McGhee was sacked and he is firmly on the outside looking in rather than his position with McGhee at the helm.
This. If you point out how cringeworthy something is by hashtagging cringe you lose at life.
Honestly it seems like every single day one of the two twitter accounts are making some thinly veiled or obnoxious comment to one another. You know if you spent less time swinging your dicks in each others faces and more time on supplying the actual rumours instead of throwing out shit riddles every once in a while everyone would be much better off for it. Except for your dicks of course, but maybe they deserve a rest.
You do know you can just unfollow them, right?
KZNSeagull
Well-known member
What willy waving is this then?
To give him his due, AN was the one that reported that the 5m offer for LD had been rejected yesterday and he put some flesh on the bones of the Dale Stephens rumour. That's his job - to find rumours and wheedle information out of the club, which is a difficult thing to do.these days. NSC is a fine source of rumours, so if he gets them from here, so what? Most newsrooms get stories and videos from social media nowadays anyway, so why shouldn't the local footie reporter? There are only 2 of them monitoring the same sites as people on here so I am not surprised that NSC finds things first, but he follows things up and gains some clarity, which is something very few on NSC can do. He has his job to do and he does it reasonably well.
To give him his due, AN was the one that reported that the 5m offer for LD had been rejected yesterday and he put some flesh on the bones of the Dale Stephens rumour. That's his job - to find rumours and wheedle information out of the club, which is a difficult thing to do.these days. NSC is a fine source of rumours, so if he gets them from here, so what? Most newsrooms get stories and videos from social media nowadays anyway, so why shouldn't the local footie reporter? There are only 2 of them monitoring the same sites as people on here so I am not surprised that NSC finds things first, but he follows things up and gains some clarity, which is something very few on NSC can do. He has his job to do and he does it reasonably well.
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
Naylor makes mistakes like building up Dean Hammond as 'the returning player we'd all been waiting for', and more recently rubbishing the Zamora and Murphy transfers on twitter.
However, if you can accept he is sometimes wrong, then he does a pretty decent job overall.
However, if you can accept he is sometimes wrong, then he does a pretty decent job overall.