Sami to be No. 2 at Anfield

GT49er · Jun 9, 2015

Driver8 said:
Leverkusen's players didn't seem t be able to.

Finishing third and fourth in successive seasons suggests that they understood reasonably well. Better than our lot, anyway.

midnight_rendezvous · Jun 9, 2015

GreersElbow said:
To help continue their demise?

Rodgers has tinkered with a 3-5-2 formation, maybe Hyypia thought that sounds sexy or Rodgers sexy. Who knows.

Don't be silly! Sami never played a 3-5-2. He played a 2-4-2-1

GreersElbow · Jun 9, 2015

midnight_rendezvous said:
Don't be silly! Sami never played a 3-5-2. He played a 2-4-2-1

I've done further scholarly research, It is infact 0-9-1. Truly revolutionary

Icy Gull · Jun 9, 2015

Simster said:
Er, they finished THIRD under Hyypia in 2013 and FOURTH in 2014, which is when he was sacked. So that's hardly proof of incompetence, is it?

He was the wrong man at the wrong time when he arrived here. I don't believe he was responsible for some of the shocking shìt recruitment, but he seemed unable to motivate, unable to switch formation effectively and was shockingly passive on the touchlines. I'm speculating, but maybe with better players some of these things just don't matter at a higher level?

I think the first decent finish was when he had a quality co manager, when he left the team went into the sort of form we showed under Hyypia, he was then replaced and the new manager recovered the situation. Doing this from memory as we were warned when he joined that he was somewhat clueless by people who followed Leverkausen. I'm not sure he is ever going to make a manager, he doesn't come across as either intelligent or motivational enough. His tactics were just fecking thick with the slow old men we had to choose the defence and midfield from.

Simster · Jun 9, 2015

Icy Gull said:
I think the first decent finish was when he had a quality co manager, when he left the team went into the sort of form we showed under Hyypia, he was then replaced and the new manager recovered the situation. Doing this from memory as we were warned when he joined that he was somewhat clueless by people who followed Leverkausen. I'm not sure he is ever going to make a manager, he doesn't come across as either intelligent or motivational enough. His tactics were just fecking thick with the slow old men we had to choose the defence and midfield from.

I wouldn't disagree, I just think it's a case of the jury being out rather than writing him off because of his experience here. He may prove shit elsewhere too, but there were just too many things broken during his time here.

Tony Meolas Loan Spell · Jun 9, 2015

Simster said:
We will see. He'll certainly have better players more capable of executing his game plans. Remember, he won't be hamstrung by David Burke's utterly shithouse moneyball spreadsheet.

Which is the right answer.

And Sami was an honorable chap resigning when Bloom, Barber etc didnt have the cojones to sack him when it was quite clear it wasnt working. Sami could have sat on his contract while we did a Blackpool.

seagullsovergrimsby · Jun 9, 2015

£10M for Dunky ?

Peteinblack · Jun 9, 2015

Hugo Rune said:
I think he'll make a good number 2. He needs to give it 10 years learning management under people like Brendan before he tries being a number 1 again.

As quickly as that? :wink:

DarrenFreemansPerm · Jun 9, 2015

Simster said:
We will see. He'll certainly have better players more capable of executing his game plans. Remember, he won't be hamstrung by David Burke's utterly shithouse moneyball spreadsheet.

That seems to be one of the biggest problems at Liverpool, the FSG Transfer Committee has made an absolute shambles of their transfers so far, but rather than get the chop themselves they point the finger of justice and blame at Marsh at Pascoe.

GT49er · Jun 9, 2015

midnight_rendezvous said:
Don't be silly! Sami never played a 3-5-2. He played a 2-4-2-1

2-4-2-1 - so that's it! - he was keeping a spare player back to rush on to the field and score the winning goal in the last minute! Shame we (and the players) never realised that!

GT49er · Jun 9, 2015

DarrenFreemansPerm said:
That seems to be one of the biggest problems at Liverpool, the FSG Transfer Committee has made an absolute shambles of their transfers so far, but rather than get the chop themselves they point the finger of justice and blame at Marsh at Pascoe.

Sturridge injured, Ballotelli useless - yet they still hardly played Ricky Lambert. Don't think he was injured. Time for him to start looking to end his career in a slightly lower division perhaps?

DarrenFreemansPerm · Jun 9, 2015

GT49er said:
Sturridge injured, Ballotelli useless - yet they still hardly played Ricky Lambert. Don't think he was injured. Time for him to start looking to end his career in a slightly lower division perhaps?

Rodgers is a curious character, in the absence of his main striker he ignored Lambert and Borini in favour of Sterling, a player who clearly has little shooting ability. Causes his own problems sometimes.

El Sid · Jun 9, 2015

midnight_rendezvous said:
Don't be silly! Sami never played a 3-5-2. He played a 2-4-2-1

I think Hyypia got confused by all the Dominos leaflets coming through his door.

Pavilionaire · Jun 9, 2015

I'm not sure that Danny Ings is a Top 6 striker and I'm not convinced Sami will bring much to the party at Liverpool. If Sterling leaves this could be a car crash season.

Mellotron · Jun 9, 2015

Hugo Rune said:
I think he'll make a good number 2.

Based on what? I'm not saying he won't be but I've seen zero evidence to suggest he'll be good at this.

NooBHA · Jun 9, 2015

DarrenFreemansPerm said:
Rodgers is a curious character, in the absence of his main striker he ignored Lambert and Borini in favour of Sterling, a player who clearly has little shooting ability. Causes his own problems sometimes.

Raheem Sterling and Harry Kane will make millions out of football but if you ask me, they are average to good players but also players, nothing more who are quite easily nullified by good defenders.

The top sides for the most part stopped Kane from scoring against them last season. And if you were to watch the World Cup matches for England, especially against Uruguy. They just put that big bruzer of a central defender at left back against Sterling and once he blootered him once then Sterling didn't even want the ball near him for the rest of the match

Drumstick · Jun 9, 2015

Sounds like exactly what he needs. A few years as number two learn the tough boss side of things and then try again.

Good luck to him.

maltaseagull · Jun 9, 2015

Simster said:
We will see. He'll certainly have better players more capable of executing his game plans. Remember, he won't be hamstrung by David Burke's utterly shithouse moneyball spreadsheet.

Well, they had a crap summer of recruitment last season so perhaps they are going to tempt Burke to link up with Sami

and improve things.

Still they did beat Chelsea , City, Arsenal and Man U to Ings !

Harry H · Jun 9, 2015

Will be an excellent defensive coach.

Hampster Gull · Jun 10, 2015

ofco8 said:
According to Mail today. Oh well, onwards and upwards!!!

LOL

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