Indonesia to go ahead with execution of 6 "convicted " drug smugglers within 24 hrs.

Juror#13 · Apr 28, 2015

Meanwhile in Bali American Heather Mack, girlfriend of convicted murderer Tommy Schaefer was jailed for 10 years in Bali for killing her mum and hiding her in her suitcase. After receiving 10 years she got drunk to celebrate.

Mother.

Heather Mack, celebrating after her sentencing.

P,s, She's got a lovely inheritance when she gets out.

Westdene Seagull · Apr 28, 2015

Husty said:
The men knew the risks when they set out to do it, so I don't really have a whole lot of sympathy. Plus it's heroin, if it was Weed I'd be singing a different tune.

Like this one :

Zainal Abidin (Indonesia)
Initially sentenced to 15 years' imprisonment by Palembang District Court in September 2001 for smuggling 58.7 kilograms of marijuana. He was later sentenced to death by the Palembang High Court in December 2001.

sydney · Apr 28, 2015

GT49er said:
Police forces in international co-operation to catch drug smugglers, eh? That's some scandal you're digging up there!

read up on the case if you have any interest in it.....don't waste your sarcasm on me......it is misplaced and misguided .....plenty of resignations and re-postings gone on at customs/federal level........once again the Mrs. Very Big waltzed away through a swathe of coppers leaving the minions to take the rap.

daveinprague · Apr 28, 2015

Wasnt it the Australian police that tipped off the Indonesian authorities in the first place?

sydney · Apr 28, 2015

daveinprague said:
Wasnt it the Australian police that tipped off the Indonesian authorities in the first place?

exactly..!

StonehamPark · Apr 28, 2015

Can't do the time, don't do the crime.

Every one of those featured in this article were fully aware of the possible consequences for their actions.
They took the risk, and unfortunately have to suffer the consequences.

Ever watched "Banged Up Abroad"? Great show.

Juror#13 · Apr 28, 2015

sydney said:
read up on the case if you have any interest in it.....don't waste your sarcasm on me......it is misplaced and misguided .....plenty of resignations and re-postings gone on at customs/federal level........once again the Mrs. Very Big waltzed away through a swathe of coppers leaving the minions to take the rap.

Read this the other month. Brilliant read about the Bali 9.

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GT49er · Apr 28, 2015

sydney said:
read up on the case if you have any interest in it.....don't waste your sarcasm on me......it is misplaced and misguided .....plenty of resignations and re-postings gone on at customs/federal level........once again the Mrs. Very Big waltzed away through a swathe of coppers leaving the minions to take the rap.

Judging by your reaction it doesn't feel it was wasted at all! But carry on. It's odd that you start a thread asking for a 'discussion' when it's very clear you only want a platform for your own take on the matter.

Juror#13 · Apr 28, 2015

daveinprague said:
Wasnt it the Australian police that tipped off the Indonesian authorities in the first place?

Scott Rush dad told the police that his son might be attempting to smuggle drugs. The police alerted the the airport and when Scott Rush handed his passport over at the airport and they scanned it it set off the warning light and the rest is history.

Ex-Staffs Gull · Apr 28, 2015

Disagree with it. Smack kills, but so do other substances like booze and tobacco which are smuggled. Many on here may have tried the odd joint or line, which was no doubt smuggled in from other countries. Not saying the crime is not bad, but the dont think a firing squad state sanctioned murder is either. Odd thing is, the president of Indonesia appeals for clemency for his nationals facing the death penalty abroad, refuses to grant it himself.

daveinprague · Apr 28, 2015

Doubt if weed has needed to be smuggled into the UK for some time now. Ive smoked plenty of weed, but never thought about smuggling it into a country where there is the death penalty. I dont know the actual guilt of the matter, but if family of the people thought they were smuggling drugs, and the Australian police thought they were smuggling drugs, Im going to accept they were probably smuggling drugs. If its into a country that has the death penalty for such a thing. Well, goodbye. My sympathy to your families.

Juror#13 · Apr 28, 2015

Ex-Staffs Gull said:
Disagree with it. Smack kills, but so do other substances like booze and tobacco which are smuggled. Many on here may have tried the odd joint or line, which was no doubt smuggled in from other countries. Not saying the crime is not bad, but the dont think a firing squad state sanctioned murder is either. Odd thing is, the president of Indonesia appeals for clemency for his nationals facing the death penalty abroad, refuses to grant it himself.

The Australian people are going to be outrage soon as in two years' time, a big-time Indonesian heroin smuggler will become eligible for parole in the Australian prison system. If it is granted, he'll be taken to the airport and flown back home to his family.

Kristito Mandagi is one of three Indonesians who, like condemned Bali nine members Myuran Sukumaran and Andrew Chan, were caught trying to import 390 kilograms of heroin ( $400 - $600 million) to Australia. Unlike the Australian pair, they were lucky to have been caught by the Australian police, not by those in Bali.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/indonesian-heroin-smugglers-ready-to-walk-free-while-chan-and-sukumaran-face-death-penalty-20150222-13kc3h.html

Stat Brother · Apr 28, 2015

Just out of interest why smuggle 10kg of heroin into Indonesia, it's hardly a cash rich country full of bankers and celebrities?

Is it a halfway house before going off somewhere more profitable?
Or is the entire country populated by Zammo McGuire and his off-spring?

Juror#13 · Apr 28, 2015

Stat Brother said:
Just out of interest why smuggle 10kg of heroin into Indonesia, it's hardly a cash rich country full of bankers and celebrities?

Is it a halfway house before going off somewhere more profitable?
Or is the entire country populated by Zammo McGuire and his off-spring?

They were taking it out.

daveinprague · Apr 28, 2015

Apparently the govt is cracking down as its 30 deaths a day there

Stat Brother · Apr 28, 2015

Juror#13 said:
They were taking it out.

That makes considerably more sense :facepalm:

Juror#13 · Apr 28, 2015

Stat Brother said:
That makes considerably more sense

It comes from the Golden triangle in Burma. You can buy a kilo for as little as £500 and in western countries a kilo can cost £30k.

34064 Fighter Command · Apr 28, 2015

Juror#13 said:
The Australian people are going to be outrage soon as in two years' time, a big-time Indonesian heroin smuggler will become eligible for parole in the Australian prison system. If it is granted, he'll be taken to the airport and flown back home to his family.

Kristito Mandagi is one of three Indonesians who, like condemned Bali nine members Myuran Sukumaran and Andrew Chan, were caught trying to import 390 kilograms of heroin ( $400 - $600 million) to Australia. Unlike the Australian pair, they were lucky to have been caught by the Australian police, not by those in Bali.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/indonesian-heroin-smugglers-ready-to-walk-free-while-chan-and-sukumaran-face-death-penalty-20150222-13kc3h.html

If they want to assuage their outrage then they'll have to support capital punishment in Australian Courts so that the same sentence can be executed (sic). What's source for the goose is source for the gander. Did having a custodial system make Man Haron Monis more motivated to attack the Lindt Cafe? Would the death penalty have dissuaded him (assuming he had intended to give himself up)? It might have, in which case innocent lives might have been saved.

Whether it's right or wrong is a different issue. This is about justice. Indonesia is a Muslim Country, those committing crimes there must accept that their Indonesian Courts apply Muslim standards of justice - not necessarily ours. Those Muslim standards allow (for example) death by Stoning, or beheading, in other Muslim Countries.

If you commit certain crimes in the USA, or China, execution might well be a consequence. Justice is seen to be done.

The Merry Prankster · Apr 28, 2015

I'm against the death penalty wherever. I don't trust the state to run a sweet shop properly, let alone anything more important.

Bombadier Botty · Apr 28, 2015

StonehamPark said:
Can't do the time, don't do the crime.

Every one of those featured in this article were fully aware of the possible consequences for their actions.
They took the risk, and unfortunately have to suffer the consequences.

Ever watched "Banged Up Abroad"? Great show.

Legendary show. Most of them on YouTube, although you get the feeling that more 'artistic licence' was being deployed as they went into the second or third series - the American 'Hollywood Actor' banged up somewhere in South America who took on almost an entire prison population in something out of a 'StreetFighter' scenario being one example.

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