BadFish
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Supply the entire world with solar electiricty
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Megazone
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Megazone
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Bugger, Hijacked second post in
I think this is a conspiracy by the fossil fuel power companies to derail the discussion of solar power and disappear down a rabbit hole of conspiracy theories.
Damn it, will they ever give up?
Magnetic energy would be far more eco friendly and cheaper. What's the matter with that?
Badfish, Why do you always come across so negative when you post? Sorry to be analytical, but it does need to be said.
Nicolas Tesla is no conspiracy. But go ahead, you obviously know more......
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ThePompousPaladin
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There's quite number of ways to provide the leccy, as far as i'm aware though, the problem is distributing it.
Roll on high temperature superconductors...
Roll on high temperature superconductors...
beorhthelm
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why dont you toddle off then and create a magnetic energy plant, and use which ever of Teslas surpressed but widely known ideas will give free energy. come back when you have something usable and reliable at a domestic level.
back to reality, the trouble with solar panels is energy storage for night time or cloud cover. as i understand it they are not good at high peak loads or variation in demand either. the environment impact on their manufacture is overlooked as well (being made in China has allowed us to pretty much ignore it). they are terribly efficient at what they do, though improving. really a better solution would be thorium nuclear and/or a hydrogen based system, possibly using solar for the electrolysis stage.
OzMike
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My 5.1 KWh system was generating 4.8 KWh last Friday and was a bit cloudy and 29 degrees.
All I need is to get a wind fan to power us at night, as it does get pretty windy in these parts.
All I need is to get a wind fan to power us at night, as it does get pretty windy in these parts.
BadFish
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this maybe true but the technology of solar is improving at a steady rate. The point being made is that the energy is there, we just have to find away to efficiently store it and use it.
I think that there are problems with all systems and we are not at a point where any of them are completely workable but with decent funding and a little time we should be able to move away from fossil fuels and into safe renewable energy.
Blackadder
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I watched the Australian version of Coast on Sunday night. They have large "Bells" that work under the waves (near Perth) and seem to generate a fair bit of power. They are under the waves, so you don't actually see them.
(Apologies if this has been mentioned in any of the You Tube attachements above. You Tube is blocked at work).
(Apologies if this has been mentioned in any of the You Tube attachements above. You Tube is blocked at work).
BadFish
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I have heard about something like this but didn't actually know anyone had done it for real. Do you remember what the show was called?
Is this it? When you get home from work obviously
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J_7ucSwU8Q
Pizza
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Transmission losses would make solar energy used like that very inefficient, but it does demonstrate the scalability of solar.
Unfortunately, China's manipulation of rare earth markets makes it hard to manufacture anything on that scope.
Unfortunately, China's manipulation of rare earth markets makes it hard to manufacture anything on that scope.
beorhthelm
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high voltage DC removes the transmission losses (AC was used originally because of technology i forget restricted DC, which has since been resolved). Rare earths are not as constrained by China as is apparent, they aren't actually rare and its pollution from the extraction processes that keep them in China. the main problem of solar is its variability, even if there was a 99% efficient conversion (though that would make it very cheap by then).
It's not in English. What's it supposed to say, 'look, here's a battery powered motor'?
Blackadder
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I have heard about something like this but didn't actually know anyone had done it for real. Do you remember what the show was called?
Is this it? When you get home from work obviously
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J_7ucSwU8Q
managed to get it on my phone. Yep that's the stuff!
Bold Seagull
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If there was worldwide political will you could do this.
The energy loop could not only supply much of the world with electrical power, a by product of keeping the mirrors clean would be using some of the energy created to desalinate sea water. That process can in turn enable crops to grow in a previously inhospitable area. The collecting mirrors are the big problem in that the odd sand storm could have a damaging effect. Not to mention the instability in the area.
However, imagine the world paying Africa to produce it's energy as a renewable provider, not only supply clean energy, but bringing Africa out of poverty, producing fresh water from the clean energy to enable new crop areas to flourish....I had a dream...
http://cleantechnica.com/2014/02/28/sahara-forest-project-powered-by-sunlight-and-saltwater/
Bold Seagull
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That is a very interesting idea, you are solving a whole range of global issues here. You just need to world wide political will
It is very frustrating because the technology is there. While we're led to believe that a new generation of nuclear power is our only answer, the real answer rises in the East every single morning. It is mind numbingly painful to understand the amount of energy that lands on every square meter of the earth per hour.
Even ideas like solar roadways, while far fetched perhaps, is showing how thinking about real solutions could seriously change the planet and the direction we take our energy production in.