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Why does CMS get off so lightly with our fans?
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Gullflyinghigh
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Because, despite his flaws, he at least seems to put some effort in. It's (seemingly) the simplest thing in the world for a footballer to do but it's noticeable when someone is giving it a go.
He could play alongside Ronaldo and Messi in a front 3 and he'd still be utterly ineffectual. Over 4 years he has played in front 2s and 3s enough by now.
He's nowhere near good enough for us to completely fit our game around him, as you suggest. Regardless of formation or tactics, I expect a Championship striker to have a better first touch than ME. Is that really too much to ask? Genuinely?
Stick him in League One (for his own sake, nice bloke) and he'll get some goals.
c0lz
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Gus F**ked him over big time the team was never built around his style as promised. how many strikers have we had that were sht for us only to make a impact else where, since the Amex first season we have only one good striker suited to our boring system.
Tubby-McFat-Fuc
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HOw he going to score goals in league one if he doesn't have a first touch?
When has he ever had a run in the side as one of a front 2? Unless you consider the odd 15 minutes here and there as we are chasing goals enough of a chance.
Tubby-McFat-Fuc
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Exactly. No striker shines with us. Even Leo badly under performed in his last season with us, because of how he was used. I shudder to think what damage he'll do for Leicester next season in teh championship if he is played as one of a pair!
seagullsovergrimsby
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To be brutally honest CMS is overrated and not good enough to be successful at this level but at the same time this also applies to Chris O'Gravy and Leon Worst.
Dick Knights Mumm
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It isn't just his first touch. It is his movement as well. When Hoskins played he showed what movement is required from a forward. Running around is not the same as movement.
Time to cut our losses.
Time to cut our losses.
I think it's because he's been systematically destroyed by Poyet and the Albion. Poyet signed him, ruined him and buggered off. He was never going to suit the way we play and that's on the club.
You don't judge a centre back for being a bad right back, just as you shouldn't blame a small nippy finisher for not becoming a 6ft hold up play, target man.
Then add injury to rock bottom confidence and you get CMS.
You don't judge a centre back for being a bad right back, just as you shouldn't blame a small nippy finisher for not becoming a 6ft hold up play, target man.
Then add injury to rock bottom confidence and you get CMS.
Tom Hark Preston Park
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- Jul 6, 2003
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Face it, the Championship was never built around CMS style, which relies entirely on donkey defenders being caught flat-footed so he can run onto a through ball. Total waste of a transfer fee.
seagulls4ever
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I think we, the club, have ruined him as a player and ruined his confidence with the way we've used him. Saying that, he was alright for us before his injury. Since his major injury he's been no good at all. Under different circumstances I think he would have done better for us. Certainly this is what Tony Bloom alluded to a few weeks back.
But we have to ask the question, why do strikers consistently underperform when playing for us? The only player to score a good number of goals for us was Ulloa, and that was simply because his class shone through and he is able to play in different systems.
But we have to ask the question, why do strikers consistently underperform when playing for us? The only player to score a good number of goals for us was Ulloa, and that was simply because his class shone through and he is able to play in different systems.
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
Leo took over from CMS in January 2013 and scored 10 in 20 appearances. That side had pace on both flanks, and pace from midfield. It wasn't always direct but Ulloa flourished and adapted incredibly quickly. In the same team CMS managed 11 goals in 30 appearances.
The following season a new manager takes over, new playing squad, not so mobile, not so attacking, but Ulloa, having sat out part of the season injured still managed 16 goals in 38 appearances.
So if a striker scoring pretty much a goal every 2 games isn't shining for you in a side that finished 4th and 6th - then you have got some seriously high expectations!
On saying all that, Murray and Barnes didn't seem to do too bad under our system either. I think we all know Murray would have continued to flourish. When I say 'we all' obviously I mean everyone apart from those making the decisions within the club...
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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CMS was the Great White Hope, our big signing when we were basking in the fluzzy glow of a new stadium. And he sort of did OK in the first season - top scorer - a bit mediocre in the second, then he got a shocking injury but still put in a gem of a cross for Ulloa vs Forest.
He's always looked like he's tried and in the early days he was a dangerous forward. Now he looks like he's hiding on the field and he desperately needs a move.
He's always looked like he's tried and in the early days he was a dangerous forward. Now he looks like he's hiding on the field and he desperately needs a move.
Publius Ovidius
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What ever happened to Hoskins? Wasn't that another case of someone getting himself fit, playing a couple of games, looking ok and shipped out? Like Tommy?
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
Really?
CMS's championship record (all clubs):
09/10 - 43 apps 10 goals
11/12 - 45 apps 9 goals
12/13 - 29 apps 11 goals
13/14 - 5 apps 0 goals
In his WHOLE career, including the Isthmian Prem, Conference, League Two, League One, he's got past 15 league goals - just TWICE in 15 seasons of football!
It is time to stop blaming managers and systems for this player's lack of ability.
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This is what he added last season
And he will do the same this season to save us.
And he will do the same this season to save us.
bn1&bn3 Albion
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Because he works hard and is a genuinely nice guy.
As counter intuitive as this is, I don't think we can solely blame the lack of goals on the strikers.
If the team were creating chances, by now a goal would have gone in off a centre forwards arse.
There is something fundamentally wrong with the team, tactics, training, whatever, and that's playing out in front of goal.
CMS is gone and he's probably happy to leave.
His next contract will be his last, and he will score goals.
The simplistic (and justifiable) reason will be 'because it's league 1', but I bet wherever he ends up he'll have an 'assist man' putting him through for a one touch goals.
If the team were creating chances, by now a goal would have gone in off a centre forwards arse.
There is something fundamentally wrong with the team, tactics, training, whatever, and that's playing out in front of goal.
CMS is gone and he's probably happy to leave.
His next contract will be his last, and he will score goals.
The simplistic (and justifiable) reason will be 'because it's league 1', but I bet wherever he ends up he'll have an 'assist man' putting him through for a one touch goals.