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Garage_Doors

Garage_Doors

Originally the Swankers
Jun 28, 2008
11,789
Brighton
jusr read an article regarding the co-op advertising products " ideal for the food bank" and got me thinking,how do you give food to the food back, is there a collection service or drop off points?
Again I assume we have them in Brighton?
 




Notters

Notters

Well-known member
Oct 20, 2003
24,869
Guiseley
Don't know about Brighton, there's one in the high street in Newhaven, I assume you can justupop along.
 


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Raleigh Chopper

New member
Sep 1, 2011
12,054
Plymouth
The co op and the other supermarkets should be giving the food they throw away to food banks.
I was listening to a programme about this last week the waste is mountainous and still either in date or just out.
'Ideal for food banks' sounds like an awful selling line to me.
 








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turienzo's lovechild

New member
Oct 25, 2003
23,964
Programme_Seller said:
jusr read an article regarding the co-op advertising products " ideal for the food bank" and got me thinking,how do you give food to the food back, is there a collection service or drop off points?
Again I assume we have them in Brighton?
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the main one is basics bank at preston circus which serves the whole city...there are then two in the west hove/portslade area. They probably wouldn't collect. If you want to donate it may be worth ringing them- keep in mind that they're probably swamped at this time of year.
 










Stoo82

Stoo82

GEEZUS!
Jul 8, 2008
7,530
Hove
There is the Purple Kithen Food bank that operates out of Portslade Town Hall every Friday afternoon 12 -2. Some really great people volunteering there. I'm sure you could just drop in there.
 






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BigGully

Well-known member
Sep 8, 2006
7,139
Not too sure about these burgeoning schemes, my own experience has been a little disheartening if I am honest.

Not withstanding homelessness and their undoubted hunger, cold, drug habit and mental health issues beyond them I am not convinced that poverty driven hunger really exists.

I delivered a hamper to a single parent and turned up at her house ( albeit rented ) with a kitchen island and a house considerably more luxurious than mine, her children obviously not undernourished, unfortunately just one example of the majority of houses where I squeezed passed cars worth £1000's + before delivering to a grateful qualifying recipient.

Do it and fill yer boots, but I think we are primarily doing it for ourselves, damning I know but outside of the extreme cases which should ultimately be supported from other agencies it was not really as expected.
 


spence

spence

British and Proud
Oct 15, 2014
9,814
Crawley
BigGully said:
Not too sure about these burgeoning schemes, my own experience has been a little disheartening if I am honest.

Not withstanding homelessness and their undoubted hunger, cold, drug habit and mental health issues beyond them I am not convinced that poverty driven hunger really exists.

I delivered a hamper to a single parent and turned up at her house ( albeit rented ) with a kitchen island and a house considerably more luxurious than mine, her children obviously not undernourished, unfortunately just one example of the majority of houses where I squeezed passed cars worth £1000's + before delivering to a grateful qualifying recipient.

Do it and fill yer boots, but I think we are primarily doing it for ourselves, damning I know but outside of the extreme cases which should ultimately be supported from other agencies it was not really as expected.
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Spoken like a proper Conservative. What about the massive increase in benefit sanctions brought in by this current government where people literally have no money? Or what about people applying for benefits where it can take weeks to sort out?

I've seen it first hand the suffering it causes and i have helped out at homeless shelters myself and seen it
 


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Hastings gull

Well-known member
Nov 23, 2013
4,635
spence said:
Spoken like a proper Conservative. What about the massive increase in benefit sanctions brought in by this current government where people literally have no money? Or what about people applying for benefits where it can take weeks to sort out?

I've seen it first hand the suffering it causes and i have helped out at homeless shelters myself and seen it
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I suppose it was inevitable that sooner or later this would turn political. Perhaps it is the case that you may both be "right". Your experience, as you mention, is doubtless a shattering experience, but the post has experienced something else. Your sneering comment about him/her being a proper conservative is unnecessary -do you know their political affiliations? Perhaps we should take each case on its merits -there is need, as you rightly say, and there is also greed, as there always will be, once a freebie is available. And of course some folk may be homeless etc due to their own recklessness -it does happen.
 




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BigGully

Well-known member
Sep 8, 2006
7,139
spence said:
Spoken like a proper Conservative. What about the massive increase in benefit sanctions brought in by this current government where people literally have no money? Or what about people applying for benefits where it can take weeks to sort out?

I've seen it first hand the suffering it causes and i have helped out at homeless shelters myself and seen it
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Spoken like a true socialist, did you see what I did then ?

You are probably right in terms of my skepticism, but that really wasnt my intention when I volunteered in the first place.

If outside of the homeless that perhaps we share some common ground, do you not see some of the contradictions of handing a food parcel to a family without undernourished children whilst driving a car that is worth £1000's more than many of our cars and unfortunately it was a recurring theme of my drops.

It wasnt driven by hunger or need but driven by qualification which was a vague criteria that allowed those families an option to accept if wanted.
 


clippedgull

clippedgull

Hotdogs, extra onions
Aug 11, 2003
20,789
Near Ducks, Geese, and Seagulls
BigGully said:
Spoken like a true socialist, did you see what I did then ?

You are probably right in terms of my skepticism, but that really wasnt my intention when I volunteered in the first place.

If outside of the homeless that perhaps we share some common ground, do you not see some of the contradictions of handing a food parcel to a family without undernourished children whilst driving a car that is worth £1000's more than many of our cars and unfortunately it was a recurring theme of my drops.

It wasnt driven by hunger or need but driven by qualification which was a vague criteria that allowed those families an option to accept if wanted.
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Quite possibly that family had been sanctioned and although they might have had material things bought long ago, they may have not had money for food that particular week. Non malnourished kids can feel hungry too.
 


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goldstone

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
7,124
How many people who go to food banks have the latest smart-phones, designer brand clothes, pets that cost a fortune to feed, Sky, massive TVs, tattoos, smoking habits?? If they got their priorities right most of them would not need food banks.
 


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BigGully

Well-known member
Sep 8, 2006
7,139
clippedgull said:
Quite possibly that family had been sanctioned and although they might have had material things bought long ago, they may have not had money for food that particular week. Non malnourished kids can feel hungry too.
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It was my experience that those families were accepting free food, not receiving a lifeline of food to feed their hunger.

I have to say your material things analogy flawed, if you cant feed your kids best not drive your £6000 car just because it was bought long ago, in someways you do similar parents a disservice, who quite rightly prioritise the wellbeing of their family within quite tough budgetary constraints and do it very well.

If you believe in food banks it must target those that actually need them, I will even forgo those that are genuinely hungry even if its due to their own dysfunctional behaviour, but it must be genuine need at the point of giving.

Otherwise your just giving away free stuff and it loses its credibility.
 




Westdene Seagull

Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,024
The arse end of Hangleton
BigGully said:
It was my experience that those families were accepting free food, not receiving a lifeline of food to feed their hunger.

I have to say your material things analogy flawed, if you cant feed your kids best not drive your £6000 car just because it was bought long ago, in someways you do similar parents a disservice, who quite rightly prioritise the wellbeing of their family within quite tough budgetary constraints and do it very well.

If you believe in food banks it must target those that actually need them, I will even forgo those that are genuinely hungry even if its due to their own dysfunctional behaviour, but it must be genuine need at the point of giving.

Otherwise your just giving away free stuff and it loses its credibility.
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I was out of work for some considerable time this year. I currently have arrears that my trying to pay off across a whole host of bills. While I was out of work we struggled to put food on the table yet, if you had delivered a food parcel, you would have delivered it to a well kept house with a car on the drive. My kids would have not looking starving either.

Don't judge a book by it's cover.
 


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BigGully

Well-known member
Sep 8, 2006
7,139
Westdene Seagull said:
I was out of work for some considerable time this year. I currently have arrears that my trying to pay off across a whole host of bills. While I was out of work we struggled to put food on the table yet, if you had delivered a food parcel, you would have delivered it to a well kept house with a car on the drive. My kids would have not looking starving either.

Don't judge a book by it's cover.
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My point was that if you had as you say debt and was struggling then you have a responsibilty to liquidate/downsize some of your assets, be it a car, your phone, perhaps your alcohol, tobacco or gym mebrship etc etc..

If you think you shouldn't then you shouldnt expect me to use my time and efforts to come a deliver a hamper to your door, when my time might have been better spent delivering two hampers to the homeless guy living in a doorway down the road from you.
 


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