Mad Frankie Fraser

Simster · Nov 26, 2014

glasfryn said:
correct
I spoke to him many times while he was at Chelmsford nick, run with the Richardsons, pretty inoffensive .......but then he was behind bars, wifey knew the family as well.
what you might call an old fashioned criminal.

Yes, an old fashioned criminal. One who would slash people with a knife, beat the living shit out if people who stood up to his bullying, robbed people and businesses, that sort of thing.

Certainly it does appear "old fashioned criminals" have some lovely endearing qualities compared to these nasty fandangled new criminal types, so I can see why you speak so fondly of him. I guess he liked cats too?

Buzzer · Nov 26, 2014

RIP Mad Frankie. You were the people's psychopathic gangster.

Goldstone Rapper · Nov 26, 2014

Steve Piper remembers going with Mad Frankie Fraser and his son to watch Brighton play Arsenal in the 1960s.

Spun Cuppa · Nov 26, 2014

He wasn't over keen on nonces, as he mentioned a couple of times when interviewed on TV once...

Barrel of Fun · Nov 26, 2014

Buzzer said:
RIP Mad Frankie. You were the people's psychopathic gangster.

It's quite unusual (or not) that these nasty toads attract such a fanbase. The Kray wotsits being a prime example.

The same people whom worship them or deem themselves to be a fan/follower, presumably have a liberal view on what they deem to be a crime.

Would Mad Frankie be worshipped if he were Loco Francesco?

hitony · Nov 26, 2014

Barrel of Fun said:
Inoffensive, but spent a total of 42 years behind bars?

Yeah well, them prisons is full of innocent people.........innit.......

Buzzer · Nov 26, 2014

Barrel of Fun said:
It's quite unusual (or not) that these nasty toads attract such a fanbase. The Kray wotsits being a prime example.

The same people whom worship them or deem themselves to be a fan/follower, presumably have a liberal view on what they deem to be a crime.

Would Mad Frankie be worshipped if he were Loco Francesco?

My Nan, bless her, was a Whitechapel girl, born just across the road from the Blind Beggar Pub although she'd moved to Findon Valley by the time the Krays took prominence. She still had family in the area and everyone knew who the Krays were. She used to wax lyrical about them. "You could leave your back door back open then and no-one dared cause trouble around there because the Krays looked after their own." she'd tell me.

Her brother who still lived there at the time saw it differently "You could leave your back door open because no-one had anything worth nicking and the reason why no-one else caused trouble was because the Krays were the ones doing it all."

hitony · Nov 26, 2014

Barrel of Fun said:
It's quite unusual (or not) that these nasty toads attract such a fanbase. The Kray wotsits being a prime example.

The same people whom worship them or deem themselves to be a fan/follower, presumably have a liberal view on what they deem to be a crime.

Would Mad Frankie be worshipped if he were Loco Francesco?

My wifes Dad was good mates with The Krays and their associates, "Nasty Toads" :angry:

she can't wait to meet you on saturday, you do know her name of course...... :lol:

glasfryn · Nov 26, 2014

Simster said:
Yes, an old fashioned criminal. One who would slash people with a knife, beat the living shit out if people who stood up to his bullying, robbed people and businesses, that sort of thing.

Certainly it does appear "old fashioned criminals" have some lovely endearing qualities compared to these nasty fandangled new criminal types, so I can see why you speak so fondly of him. I guess he liked cats too?

most of the things you say he done were to other criminals
new criminal types as you say would beat your granny for her pension
you probably never met him so really do not know what you are talking about .............................as per usual
stick to football mate ................oh no hang on a minute...
you really are an offensive oaf

Simster · Nov 26, 2014

glasfryn said:
most of the things you say he done were to other criminals
new criminal types as you say would beat your granny for her pension
you probably never met him so really do not know what you are talking about .............................as per usual
stick to football mate ................oh no hang on a minute...
you really are an offensive oaf

Priceless. So Fraser was a lovely old fashioned criminal because he only tortured other villains. Well that's alright then. I'm sure the local public felt safe knowing that.

Stick to cats mate. You talk utter utter shit on literally every other subject. This is a case in point. Offensive? He was a nasty villain who got banged up for 42 years. I wouldn't be upset if he died in pain.

glasfryn · Nov 26, 2014

Simster said:
Priceless. So Fraser was a lovely old fashioned criminal because he only tortured other villains. Well that's alright then. I'm sure the local public felt safe knowing that.

Stick to cats mate. You talk utter utter shit on literally every other subject. This is a case in point. Offensive? He was a nasty villain who got banged up for 42 years. I wouldn't be upset if he died in pain.

as I said an oaf

prison officer for 10 years nearly
there were/are far worse than him in there sunshine
why do you always bring cats up I have other things in my life

Simster · Nov 26, 2014

glasfryn said:
as I said an oaf

Why? Because I sullied Fraser's otherwise spotless image?

You're tremendous value. Unbelievably thick but marvellously so. :lolol:

glasfryn · Nov 26, 2014

Simster said:
Why? Because I sullied Fraser's otherwise spotless image?

You're tremendous value. Unbelievably thick but marvellously so.

as I said oaf
you don't even know me
go away and annoy someone else

El Sid · Nov 26, 2014

glasfryn said:
most of the things you say he done were to other criminals
new criminal types as you say would beat your granny for her pension
you probably never met him so really do not know what you are talking about .............................as per usual
stick to football mate ................oh no hang on a minute...
you really are an offensive oaf

He was a nutter, diagnosed clinically insane on several occasions.
Totally devoid of contrition.
You really cannot condone his activities on any level.

glasfryn · Nov 26, 2014

El Sid said:
He was a nutter, diagnosed clinically insane on several occasions.
Totally devoid of contrition.
You really cannot condone his activities on any level.

who said I condoned them
all I am saying he was never the sort to beat your granny for her pension ......unlike the scrotes of today

Buzzer · Nov 26, 2014

glasfryn said:
who said I condoned them
all I am saying he was never the sort to beat your granny for her pension ......unlike the scrotes of today

Nonsense. There were scrotes that robbed old ladies, murdered children and suchlike back then just as there are scrotes that do that now. And there are career criminals in prison now who would happily help old ladies across the street and defend a woman's honour. There were no halcyon days of criminal activity. A quick read of contemporary crime novels for any period will tell you that.

vegster · Nov 26, 2014

A new first, other than the Thatcher Croaks thread, the first time there has been a NSC binfest on a RIP thread.

User removed 4 · Nov 26, 2014

Simster said:
Yes, an old fashioned criminal. One who would slash people with a knife, beat the living shit out if people who stood up to his bullying, robbed people and businesses, that sort of thing.

Certainly it does appear "old fashioned criminals" have some lovely endearing qualities compared to these nasty fandangled new criminal types, so I can see why you speak so fondly of him. I guess he liked cats too?

This ^^^^
makes me die , all this 'they only hurt their own ' bollox.

glasfryn · Nov 26, 2014

Buzzer said:
Nonsense. There were scrotes that robbed old ladies, murdered children and suchlike back then just as there are scrotes that do that now. And there are career criminals in prison now who would happily help old ladies across the street and defend a woman's honour. There were no halcyon days of criminal activity. A quick read of contemporary crime novels for any period will tell you that.

in the 10 or so years I was in prisons I never met one who broke into an old ladies house and beat her and take her pension ...maybe they were around but I never met one
the prisons are full of them now along with those who kill for no apparent reason other than for the fun of it

el punal · Nov 26, 2014

Please refer to Monty Python's classic - Dinsdale and Doug Pirhana.

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