Which Party best represents the British Working Classes ?

WATFORD zero · Nov 21, 2014

beorhthelm said:
define who is in the working class then come back.

simply saying someone who earns average earnings doesn't mean much.

Well that was an interesting contribution - thanks for that :thumbsup:

Hamilton · Nov 21, 2014

I'd say none of them. The greens if pushed, but I doubt many of the working classes will vote green as they probably see that as a soft middle class vote.

Brovion · Nov 21, 2014

None of the above. And sadly a lot of the so-called Socialist parties on closer examination aren't supportive of the working class as a whole, they're just political wings of the public sector unions. And whilst I have absolutely nothing against the public sector unions they do have their own rather narrow agendas concerned, understandably, with their own jobs.

Brovion · Nov 21, 2014

Hamilton said:
I'd say none of them. The greens if pushed, but I doubt many of the working classes will vote green as they probably see that as a soft middle class vote.

Bugger, didn't mean to give you a thubs-up! (missed the 'reply with quote' button). Personally I think the Greens are one of the least-sympathetic parties as far as ordinary working people are concerned. They are, with the greatest of respect to their many supporters on here, the party of smug, comfortably-off, middle class twats.

(And yes, having said that I've a good mind to vote personally for Caroline Lucas!)

Buzzer · Nov 21, 2014

Brovion said:
Bugger, didn't mean to give you a thubs-up! (missed the 'reply with quote' button). Personally I think the Greens are one of the least-sympathetic parties as far as ordinary working people are concerned. They are, with the greatest of respect to their many supporters on here, the party of smug, comfortably-off, middle class twats.

(And yes, having said that I've a good mind to vote personally for Caroline Lucas!)

I think you're spot-on with everything you've written here and likewise, I'm voting for her too most probably.

The Antikythera Mechanism · Nov 21, 2014

The Large One said:
It helps if you define what the 'British working class' actually is in the 21st century.

I'm not sure what it means these days.

Life was simpler in the 60's :wink:

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Herr Tubthumper · Nov 21, 2014

The Large One said:
It helps if you define what the 'British working class' actually is in the 21st century.

I'm not sure what it means these days.

I'm sure you can have a guess and be reasonably accurate.

This thread is too depressing to join in I'm afraid. But, I'd also ask which party best represents the youth as they're being royally shafted as well.

Herr Tubthumper · Nov 21, 2014

beorhthelm said:
define who is in the working class then come back.

Read Orwell's The Road To Wigan Pier, then come back.

nicko31 · Nov 21, 2014

Probably Labour, the Green would tax trips to Benidorm

Hastings gull · Nov 21, 2014

strings said:
Would agree with this, and it is a real shame. The people of Britain really deserve a party that represents the workers of Britain. When I was at University, I was quite active in the National Union of Students, many of the people I know from this period of my life are Labour candidates for 2015. They are the backbone of Labour's young up-and-coming politicians. This is a shame, as some of them have gone straight from Student Unionism to working for the Labour Party and now will become MPs. Don't get me wrong, these are fantastically clever and skilled people. However, how can they represent the workers of Britain when they are themselves career politicians?

Labour, at some point, has lost its' way.

This is a huge problem for the Labour Party and probably all others as well. Both Cameron and Miliband would fit into the category, in voters' eyes, of being remote from every day life. It is hard to see how working class voters in the northern industrial heartlands could really have any affinity with either of these, and so look elsewhere. UKIP narrowly failed to topple the labour candidate in Rochdale a few weeks ago. Sadly, I don't see the situation changing much with the major parties - it is just too cosy to be a researcher for an MP based at the Commons and then get parachuted into a safe seat, thus not ever having had a "real job." Eton Toffs and Champagne Socialists - is there much of a difference?

Notters · Nov 21, 2014

Buzzer said:
Just my opinion but:
UKIP - political chancers and a vehicle for Farage's ego and for various failed politicians. People vote for them as a protest.
Tory - The working class that vote for them aren't on minimum wage, zero hour contracts. Their appeal is to the white van man in Rochester.
Labour - they've taken this vote for granted for so long and as a consequence voter apathy is at its very highest amongst the poorest, much to Labour's shame. There are still genuine people who do battle for them but unfortunately they're nowhere near to the top so unable to influence policy. Labour is pretty much the same as the Conservative Party within Parliament - completely out of touch with the electorate.
Lib Dems & Greens appeal to a specific type of voter and it's not the type who shop at Iceland, Lidl or Bright House.

So...I still say none of them.

Eh? I shop at Lidl and will probably vote for one or t'other.

Publius Ovidius · Nov 21, 2014

seagullsovergrimsby · Nov 21, 2014

None of them

beorhthelm · Nov 21, 2014

WATFORD zero said:
Well that was an interesting contribution - thanks for that

yes, sorry, i didn't see the Large One had made the same point already.

Herr Tubthumper said:
Read Orwell's The Road To Wigan Pier, then come back.

we're not in 1930's anymore. what does working class mean today, have a guess at it, because otherwise we cant really decide if any party represents it. if its relevant or even indeed exists anymore.

glasfryn · Nov 21, 2014

tories ...well they are just the tories
labour ....watered down tories
liberal democrats ...just tories
ukip jumped up tories ...but they will do for now to get the actual tories out
which leaves the greens and lets face they will NEVER get an MP into parliament ....OH!

Herr Tubthumper · Nov 21, 2014

beorhthelm said:
we're not in 1930's anymore. what does working class mean today, have a guess at it, because otherwise we cant really decide if any party represents it. if its relevant or even indeed exists anymore.

I think most people have a rough understanding of the term, and the concept, including you. Clearly it cannot be nailed down with a precise definition but then it does not need to be.

Tom Hark Preston Park · Nov 21, 2014

This sneery bitch didn't do Labour any favours

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30139832

Sadly, you get the feeling she's representative of Labour in the Southern England and certainly in North London.

Said it before, say it again. Of the 'major' political parties, only UKIP and the Greens appear to hold firm beliefs. The other parties seem to lack any kind of conviction. Shocking really.

Hotchilidog · Nov 21, 2014

Brovion said:
Bugger, didn't mean to give you a thubs-up! (missed the 'reply with quote' button). Personally I think the Greens are one of the least-sympathetic parties as far as ordinary working people are concerned. They are, with the greatest of respect to their many supporters on here, the party of smug, comfortably-off, middle class twats.

(And yes, having said that I've a good mind to vote personally for Caroline Lucas!)

Since when has the living wage, a genuine belief in public services, healthcare, education, affordable housing and the welfare of the most vulnerable in society been the preserve of 'middle class twats'. Surely the 'working class' are interested in these things too?

Psychobilly freakout · Nov 21, 2014

strings said:
Labour, at some point, has lost its' way.

That would be when Tony Blair took charge then.......

Oh Joy it's a new dawn and new start for Britain......

Bollox all Labour voters got was a watered down version of the Conservative party.....

Oh and we went to war, but thats another story.

Skylar · Nov 21, 2014

midnight_rendezvous said:
The Greens. They are the only party that claim to be anti austerity.

Oh dear.

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