Czechmate
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Surely calling someone a 'Scot' will become illegal soon just like calling a person from Pakistan a 'Paki' , what is this country coming to
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Surely calling someone a 'Scot' will become illegal soon just like calling a person from Pakistan a 'Paki' , what is this country coming to
pastafarian
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im sure there must be a committee somewhere.
Its frowned on in the UK to use the word Pakis,but anyone who has watched American news channels will know they constantly use this word instead of the longer version Pakistanis
This is more to do with the yanks obsession of shortening every conceivable word they can........but i wonder should they censored over here for those with sensitive ears?
Stumpy Tim
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I call my wife chink sometimes. She is one though so I guess it's ok. Seven years of marriage suggests she doesn't get offended. She calls me fat though
Norman Baker suck my lozenge
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Was amazed when I was watching the cricket in Australia when the commentator called the opposition 'the pakis'
You can't argue with FACTS Tim.
Things are a bit different in Australia, they have a brand of cheese called "Coon".
TomandJerry
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- Oct 1, 2013
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Yep, I use the term
But a) you're not fat anymore because you've lost over a stone, and b) you used to call her a NIP which was incorrect.
So calling her a CHINK is progress. At least one of you is getting something right.
Psychobilly freakout
HellBilly
Yep saw that over there in Oz, they seem far more happy to throw round casual racist comments in Australia it was kinda like being back here in England in the 70s.
Bold Seagull
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Surely calling someone a 'Scot' will become illegal soon just like calling a person from Pakistan a 'Paki' , what is this country coming to
Now we can get into a semiotic debate.
A word in itself inherently has a meaning that is attributed to it. That associated meaning is what can cause the offence not the structure of the word itself. As Saussure would say, the linguistic sign composed of the signifier and the signified.
So Paki is a shortened version of Pakistani, but what does that shortening signify culturally, socially, historically? If it has become used as a derogatory term to signify racial prejudice, then the word itself contains it's own symbolism beyond the fact it is merely a shortened word - hence in that context it is completely different from Scot being shortened from Scottish.
The same can of course be said of '******', harmlessly a derivative of the latin word 'niger' meaning colour black. However, it is clear what that word came to signify and why it's use is clearly derogatory, and filled with historical and cultural hatred. The evolution of semiotics is also evident in the apparent re-adoption of the word by the black community, often as a term of friendship or casual greeting. Language is always evolving and strangely nuanced.
The symbolism of words is and the power they hold is to be honest a fascinating subject. As Roland Barthez said “I am interested in language because it wounds or seduces me.”
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HellBilly
37 too 24 at the moment however it would be interesting to see the ages of the Yes & No's, one would assume that the older generation say 35+ have voted Yes and the more educated younger people here no NSC would vote No.
which does not mean that us over 35+ are inherently racist, just a product of the time and surroundings which does not make it right, but has to be taken into account when it was on tv, at home and even in school I heard teachers use the N word.
which does not mean that us over 35+ are inherently racist, just a product of the time and surroundings which does not make it right, but has to be taken into account when it was on tv, at home and even in school I heard teachers use the N word.
The Wizard
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- Jul 2, 2009
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I do yes... But I wouldn't say it to ones face as it's obviously a term that they find offensive.
Saying that, I'm not an easily offended type so I find people getting their tails up about this sort of thing that's not even relevant to them utter nonsense, but that's just me.
Saying that, I'm not an easily offended type so I find people getting their tails up about this sort of thing that's not even relevant to them utter nonsense, but that's just me.
Prettyboyshaw
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Only behind their back, Im a strictly behind their back kind of racist You cant trust them you know, bloody slit eyed chinks.
Czechmate
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Fair play ! That Roland bloke seems pretty intelligent and has hit the nail on the head .daveinprague
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What was ok in the past, is seen offensive by many today. Not sure why people would want to use the word chinky anyway, unless out of habit...
My father referred to my mrs as that 'spade' but was always generous towards her, and never nasty about it...it was a term he grew up with.
...and yes, as a kid, I used the word chinky..
My father referred to my mrs as that 'spade' but was always generous towards her, and never nasty about it...it was a term he grew up with.
...and yes, as a kid, I used the word chinky..
Saladpack Seagull
Just Shut Up and Paddle
I'm the same age and at school (Upper Sixth) the only Asian lad joined us and was similarly called Woggy with no offence being taken by him or intended by the rest of us. He was well-respected too cos he was a great cricketer. Had he been a white foreigner, say a white South African, he would also have been called Woggy. It's just the way it was. No malice intended.
Seagull58
In the Algarve
Is this any different from playing "the poms"?