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Return of the Rev said:
Seems the french have enough cash for tear gassing brits but need a bit more to provide lunch packs and false documents to the great unwashed jogging through the tunnel,as john snow said"flood the tunnel":moo:
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I presume your talking about the migrants camping in Calais. This has been going on since the year 2000, and now it is even worse as countries like Italy cannot contain the flow of people.

Instead of sending them back they now just ship them to the mainland. Here is an article from 2011
http://rt.com/news/eu-travel-european-france/

14 years the EU have had to sort this problem out. The 12 million pounds we have given to the French to help out with the Calais problem is nothing. All it has done is created a new stopover point so people can get a wash have something to eat before they try and break in to the UK again.

The problems needs to be tackled at the point of entry to stop these people getting in to the EU in the first place. This has been going on for years, its never going to end all the time we have silly people who feel sorry for these people. So desperate some of these people that they have been offered Asylum in France but don't want it. What does this really tell us.
 




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nicko31 said:
We are experiencing a short blip of growth largely thanks to our government propping up an already over valued housing market. Meanwhile the Germans aren’t doing as well as the world is going through a slow down and there is less demand for their manufactured goods

Makes perfect senses that when economies growth you pay more, the Germans and French were paying more a couple of years back when they were growing.

Yet again our right wing increasingly euro-skeptic press are hyping things up and we’re increasingly looking like the idiot in the room
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Eh? Do you really think Britain's current growth is largely down to the 'Help to Buy' scheme? That is the single largest factor? It's not the EU-sceptics (plenty of whom come from the Left) who are the 'idiots in the room'.
 


Westdene Seagull

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nicko31 said:
We are experiencing a short blip of growth largely thanks to our government propping up an already over valued housing market. Meanwhile the Germans aren’t doing as well as the world is going through a slow down and there is less demand for their manufactured goods

Makes perfect senses that when economies growth you pay more, the Germans and French were paying more a couple of years back when they were growing.

Yet again our right wing increasingly euro-skeptic press are hyping things up and we’re increasingly looking like the idiot in the room
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Really ?? So you're suggesting that it's OK for us to subsidise the failure of the Eurozone ? I'd suggest it is you that is the idiot in the room with your blind faith that an organisation that hasn't had it's accounts approved by auditors for over a decade. This extra payment covers a period in which the EU have spent the same amount of money they are asking from YOU AND ME in moving from Brussels to Strasbourg EVERY month. This money could be used to help plug the NHS funding gap but no, instead we are about to hand it to the EU to waste.

To put it in our terms - we belong to the Football League - our gates and income have increase significantly since we moved to the Amex, Pompey's gates and income have reduced significantly in the same time. As we both belong to the same club would you be happy if the FA suddenly said 'oh, you now need to pay us an extra £2m a year and we'll give some of it to poor old Pompey' ? You're an idiot if you think that would be OK.

ADDITION : I've just noticed you don't trust our own government enough to hand over your DNA yet you trust the EU ?? Remind me who the idiot is ?
 
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Blue Valkyrie

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Seems the new commission which takes office on the 1st November can cancel this payment.

All a bit stage managed to deliver a 'win over Europe' for Cameron in a week or so ???
 


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nicko31 said:
We are experiencing a short blip of growth largely thanks to our government propping up an already over valued housing market. Meanwhile the Germans aren’t doing as well as the world is going through a slow down and there is less demand for their manufactured goods

Makes perfect senses that when economies growth you pay more, the Germans and French were paying more a couple of years back when they were growing.

Yet again our right wing increasingly euro-skeptic press are hyping things up and we’re increasingly looking like the idiot in the room
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It's not based on a short term blip of growth this is a re calibration of growth and tax going back to 1995, and includes estimates of monies "generated" within member states black economies.

This is closer to the HMRC sending you a pay demand because they changed the tax rules, then backdating the change for 20 years.

Given the way the EU works, and regardless of whether you support it or not, this is a case of democratic legitimacy. Evidence in fact of what has been surrendered by our politicians without any mandate from the electorate. Scandalous.
 




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Blue Valkyrie said:
Seems the new commission which takes office on the 1st November can cancel this payment.

All a bit stage managed to deliver a 'win over Europe' for Cameron in a week or so ???
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Would appear the Treasury knew about this last week, seems incredible that the story would break on the first day of a EU conference. It's either rank incompetence or something more politically Machiavellian.........
 




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So despite owing billions and struggling to get our debts down we have to borrow billions more to give away to the EU,affecting investment in education, nhs etc.
 
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Greyrun said:
So despite owing billions and struggling to get our debts down we have to borrow billions more to give away to the EU also affecting investment in education, nhs etc.
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Hey, but we are all Europeans now, this money is simply helping those of our fellow citizens that cant or wont help themselves,... a bit like our much lauded Welfare State.
 






Chinman3000

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Can someone please explain to me what we actually get for our 8.6billion contribution per year?
 










Herr Tubthumper

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Westdene Seagull said:
And the Germans - that's going to feck [MENTION=409]Herr Tubthumper[/MENTION] right off given apparently Germany is better at everything yet it clearly has a worse performing economy than ours !

If I were CMD I'd tell the EU to get stuffed and just not pay it.
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Pay up you tight arses, we've got a utopia which needs paying for.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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nicko31 said:
We are experiencing a short blip of growth largely thanks to our government propping up an already over valued housing market. Meanwhile the Germans aren’t doing as well as the world is going through a slow down and there is less demand for their manufactured goods

Makes perfect senses that when economies growth you pay more, the Germans and French were paying more a couple of years back when they were growing.

Yet again our right wing increasingly euro-skeptic press are hyping things up and we’re increasingly looking like the idiot in the room
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Quite right. Well said that man.
 


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So we're being fined £1.7billion because we outperformed other European economies over past decade. ****ing joke.
 




KingstonSeagull

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